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None engine is done and under a sheet. Waiting on a few parts valve body and CNC time to cut the adapter. Work has been a bit up and down so its slowed things to a crawl.
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None engine is done and under a sheet. Waiting on a few parts valve body and CNC time to cut the adapter. Work has been a bit up and down so its slowed things to a crawl.
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Got a call from my CNC guy and the adapter will be finished by Nov 30th. I'm looking forward to having that so I can finally get this swap started. Have not worked on anything to do with this swap in almost two months.
In other news the beater I have been using to get me around wile I do this swap is now got a bad engine knock. A friend of mine has a replacement I can have for free so this weekend will be spent swapping and engine into the car I got to facilitate a swap on my truck lol.
Other things needed to start the swap on the Lexus us my VB and I need to measure for and make a spacer for the converter.
I may also offer a few adapter kits for sale if there is any interest. It would be the adapter to adapt as A440 to the Isuzu Automatic bell and the A440 converter to the Isuzu converter plate. Some machine work and welding will be needed on the converter adapter. Most converter shops should have no problem doing it. I will also be able to supply filter head relocation brackets like the one I used to clear the drive shaft and diff. I will not be offering anything till I know it works 100% on my truck first.
In other news the beater I have been using to get me around wile I do this swap is now got a bad engine knock. A friend of mine has a replacement I can have for free so this weekend will be spent swapping and engine into the car I got to facilitate a swap on my truck lol.
Other things needed to start the swap on the Lexus us my VB and I need to measure for and make a spacer for the converter.
I may also offer a few adapter kits for sale if there is any interest. It would be the adapter to adapt as A440 to the Isuzu Automatic bell and the A440 converter to the Isuzu converter plate. Some machine work and welding will be needed on the converter adapter. Most converter shops should have no problem doing it. I will also be able to supply filter head relocation brackets like the one I used to clear the drive shaft and diff. I will not be offering anything till I know it works 100% on my truck first.
Can you get the v/b gasket kit by itself,without having to buy a complete transmission rebuild gasket kit. Another words if someone wanted to get his /her v/b reworked they wouldn't have to buy the complete transmission gasket kit. Or a link for people to go to who want to follow your lead. Oh and wish to add that your t/c rebuild guy has pulled through with the highest marks and a super price, just watch out on the shipping companies cost. I believe that their shipper is the best route.
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I had to get them all from Toyota, they do not even have the gasket for the A440 with Cruise I think it needed to be modes a bit. I have a feeling you can get a VB seal kit from a place that makes after market rebuild kits but never pre sued it.
I found the individual seal part numbers using ToyotaDIY.
Putting my name in the hat for your adapter ( granted it works on your setup first ).
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No worries, nothing will be offered till I have it fully tested. Still need to make sure its worth it for all as well. Ill put you on the list.
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I like the way this guy thinks. Put my name down as well; provided it works.
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I'm sure it can be made to fit, there is a guy on 4BTswaps doing that now on his 80 series.
Thanks for the interest folks, I want to get this fully tested first with a good amount of mileage before I make any for anyone else.
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Big day in the progress of my swap today.
Facing the 6061 it was not cut well and i will not be using round stock again.
Starting to get the shape and thickness cut.
Overall shape, just needs the holes now.
Facing the 6061 it was not cut well and i will not be using round stock again.
Starting to get the shape and thickness cut.
Overall shape, just needs the holes now.
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Today was spent cutting the holes, this was the most time consuming part of the design process. We ended up using a CMM machine to get that exact. It was also very costly to get done but hopefully worth it.
All done and installed on the Isuzu bell and its dowels fits perfectly.
Headed down to pick it up in a couple hours and we'll test it on the Toyota A440 trans side. As with the way Toyota centered the bell we are using the pump to centre it. The A442 uses dowels that do not exists on the A440.
All done and installed on the Isuzu bell and its dowels fits perfectly.
Headed down to pick it up in a couple hours and we'll test it on the Toyota A440 trans side. As with the way Toyota centered the bell we are using the pump to centre it. The A442 uses dowels that do not exists on the A440.
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So test fit on the trans and there was an issue with the hole spacing, looks like it got mirrored so its not lining up on two holes. Fortunately the other 6 holes are the same both ways its just the lower two that are off. We are going to adjust the model and see if we can redo the incorrect ones on this plate. If not its a nice piece of wall art. Guess that's the cost of custom design. 
That's a bummer on the holes. After you posted the pic of it on the Isuzu bell housing, I noticed that the hole spacing on the bottom two was a little different than mine. One of my bottom holes is closer to one of the Isuzu holes, so much so, that I had to trim the head of one of my bolts so they didn't overlap each other. I thought it was just because of my hillbilly engineering methods. 
Hopefully you can make that one work.
Don
By the way, I'm almost done with the valve body. Been working a bunch lately.
Hopefully you can make that one work.Don
By the way, I'm almost done with the valve body. Been working a bunch lately.
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That's a bummer on the holes. After you posted the pic of it on the Isuzu bell housing, I noticed that the hole spacing on the bottom two was a little different than mine. One of my bottom holes is closer to one of the Isuzu holes, so much so, that I had to trim the head of one of my bolts so they didn't overlap each other. I thought it was just because of my hillbilly engineering methods.
Don
By the way, I'm almost done with the valve body. Been working a bunch lately.
Yeah was a bummer but hopefully it is salvageable. I got a proof last week of the model and it looked good but I was more worried about direction of tilt for the engine and the pan cut out. Did not even think about those two holes since those two are the ones that got this whole CMM/CNC thing started. The Hillbilly engineering works, this one should too once the file is corrected.
No problem, I'm going to try carefully removing the accumulator valves so I can test fit the transmission and engine and not have them come falling out.
Cheers,
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Dropped the Adapter off last night to have the centre bore opened up slightly to allow installation. We are not going to worry about the two bolts being off we know the issue and its an easy fix, we want to make sure there are no other issues or changes needed before making any more. This will also allow us to get the converter mounting sorted out and in the works.
So test fit on the trans and there was an issue with the hole spacing, looks like it got mirrored so its not lining up on two holes. Fortunately the other 6 holes are the same both ways its just the lower two that are off. We are going to adjust the model and see if we can redo the incorrect ones on this plate. If not its a nice piece of wall art. Guess that's the cost of custom design.
Oh that sucks, was it the ones we measured or the unknown ones? Well the rest looks nice, hope it doesn't turn out to be expensive wall art. If it works, how close are you to getting the build finished?
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It was the odd spaced ones we measured. The measurement can not be off since it was all measured in a CMM. The issue was in final modeling the the bolt pattern on that part was not flipped to match the trans it was cut to match the bell. Well get it figured out and fixed. Im sure it will be usable when done.
I have no idea when the build will be finished. But i cant remember a car or truck i ever got truly finished lol. Hope is to have it on the road in the spring sometime.
All part of the R&D of making parts, a good way to learn new things. You may have benefitted from printing it off on paper and then checking all was good before the machining, even folks that do great looking work have to do things twice sometimes.
Now that you're done the design though, are planning to do something with the CAD files? Are you going to sell parts or sell the dwg etc?
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Yeah all part of the process. At this point its just for mine, if it works out well then we will look at making more for sale. But the original plan was to just make mine. The R&D will end up making this cost more than any other kit i could have got but i like doing my own thing and i know it will work, if not its my fault. May offer up the CAD files not sure really.