IFS travel gain

[EL_3grab]

yah .. somthing like this .. but the T100 is completely different chassis ..

LC100 A-arm

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=964673&postcount=71


T100 A-Arm

http://www.trailslesstraveled.com/content/techarticles/64/17.jpg


very much similar ..


i wil order pair .. if they fit .. thats it .. if not .. use it as Repertoire and machine new one ..

 

[EL_3grab]

im using the kingShocks .. they are 2.7 inch longer in the front .. so new upper mount and maybe rising it a little bit ..

T100 ball joint

LC100 ball joint pic WANTED ..

 

[wngrog]

I think an long travel IFS is a neat project, but if you have a great desrt race prep shop in your area, let them decide what is the best application as far as the springs and shocks go.

Don't show up with a bunch of parts and have them try to reto fit them to your suspension/chassis.

I think in the end they will rip it all out and replace it with something stronger if you plan on jumping that beast.

 

[EL_3grab]

the last decision

Buying 1.5 camburg Uniball

http://www.camburg.com/rodendsprod.html

and making complete new UCA ..

How hard it can be ..

 

[100 TD]

im using the kingShocks .. they are 2.7 inch longer in the front .. so new upper mount and maybe rising it a little bit ..

T100 ball joint

LC100 ball joint pic WANTED ..

Looks good if it works, what is the compressed length of the king shock, that is how much longer is it than the stock shock when compressed?
If you add the spacer and longer shock, have you worked out how much additional travel you will get and how much decreased upwards travel, or is this only limited by the bump stop? I think the 100 ball joint is only available complete with upper arm

 

[DirtyHarry]

What about something like the RockKrawler kit for Chevys? Maybe they would make a kit for the 100 series. They replace the torsion bars with coilovers and claim added travel without any additional track width.

http://www.rockkrawler.com/pages/catalog/index.php?r_itemID=48

 

[EL_3grab]

Looks good if it works, what is the compressed length of the king shock, that is how much longer is it than the stock shock when compressed?
If you add the spacer and longer shock, have you worked out how much additional travel you will get and how much decreased upwards travel, or is this only limited by the bump stop? I think the 100 ball joint is only available complete with upper arm

that what im consdering about .. i dont want to limit the upwards travel .. i prefer rising the upper mount is better since the king shocks is 2.7 inch longer ..


Front ........................ Rear

Pre-runner shocks 2.5:
6' Travel: 14-20 ......... 10' Travel: 18.375-28.375

OME:
N133: 11.3-17.4 .......... N74L: 15.6-26.2


so the first thing you want to deal with .. is how much travel you will gain by using the uniball 1, 2 inch .. then decide how much to rise the upper mount (if needed) .. in the end .. you will have the same upward travel and gaining maybe 2 inch down travel ..

i think this is the easiest way to gain any more travel .. add to that coilover conversion and adjustable ride hight .. with the best shocks you can find .. durability and reliability ..

and yes .. the 100 ball joint is only available complete with upper arm .. so its appear to me is completely differet from the T100 ball joint ..

 

[EL_3grab]

What about something like the RockKrawler kit for Chevys? Maybe they would make a kit for the 100 series. They replace the torsion bars with coilovers and claim added travel without any additional track width.

http://www.rockkrawler.com/pages/catalog/index.php?r_itemID=48

any body can do it .. just the right amount of time and money ..

the best in toyota business

http://www.chaosfab.com/

http://www.camburg.com/

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

N133: 11.3-17.4 .......... N74L: 15.6-26.2

That's a 100 front shock compared to an 80 rear shock.

 

[EL_3grab]

That's a 100 front shock compared to an 80 rear shock.

because its the closest one to the 10' inch travel king shocks (both OME 10' is inch travel) .. cant use the 8' inch kingshocks .. i will loose 2 inch in travel .. with the BATTLEZ rear bump stop (1.6 Lower) i have .. i will rise the upper mount by 2.6-2.8 inch .. and maybe using 35 tire without any rubbing at full compression ..

Rear

Pre-runner shocks 2.5:
10' Travel: 18.375-28.375
8' Travel: 16-24

OME:
N74L: 15.6-26.2
N101C: 14.2-24

 

[100 TD]

Do you think it would be possible to cut the 100 ball joint out and replace it with the T100 bolt in ball joint including the spacer, and not bind up, and make some gain?

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

OK....EL_3GRAB....what springs and shocks are you running (or plan to run) in the rear?

 

[100 TD]

Forget the rear John, you've done that, lets leave this as an IFS thread

 

[EL_3grab]

Do you think it would be possible to cut the 100 ball joint out and replace it with the T100 bolt in ball joint including the spacer, and not bind up, and make some gain?

ats4x4dotcom mention that ..

Spacers would be ok, as long as the up travel was limited so the ball joint didnt bind on up travel.

think about it like that .. buy the Uniball kit .. bolt it on .. and make the Arm around it .. easy as it look .. and easier if not you how will do the job .. seriously i may have a hard time to find the right shop .. but if i were in USA .. with the all skills and fabrication shop .. its a matter of time and couple hundred of bucks .. some body have to move his @ss ..

 

[EL_3grab]

OK....EL_3GRAB....what springs and shocks are you running (or plan to run) in the rear?

10' inch .. spring rate .. dont know .. i have Ironman spring TOY025C .. it seem the stiffest one in LC100 and LC80 ..

http://www.ironmansuspension.com/toyota/UZJ100.htm

http://www.ironmansuspension.com/toyota/HZJ80.htm

its harsh on the street and hardly get compressed .. but i like it off road .. i gaind around 10cm lift with out the the both rear seats and spare tire and empty sub tank ..

thinking the same rate ..

 

[DirtyHarry]

if i were in USA .. with the all skills and fabrication shop .. its a matter of time and couple hundred of bucks .. some body have to move his @ss ..

Even the cheapest production uniball A-arms are around $500, I would expect a one-off pair to cost closer to a grand. Maybe the money is not an issue but don't be disappointed when it is not "a couple hundred of bucks".

 

[EL_3grab]

Even the cheapest production uniball A-arms are around $500, I would expect a one-off pair to cost closer to a grand. Maybe the money is not an issue but don't be disappointed when it is not "a couple hundred of bucks".

at most .. it wont exceed 500$ thats for sure ..

I can imagine

Big bucks to play with the big boys


Seriously though, people drop almost $2000 on a friggin bumper, another $1500on a roof top tent, why not invest money in the suspension too?

Maybe not $5000 but bring on the uniball UCA's and premium shocks!

Woo Hoo!

 

[EL_3grab]

Kartek offroad 1 Uniball = 90$

http://www.kartek.com/products/all/heims/heims.htm


different from ball joint and Uniball

more pic's

 

[EL_3grab]

104,00 Lb Radail Load Capacity

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=202&cat=0&page=1

Poly Performance Uniball A relatively new offering from one of my favourite suppliers in the industry, Dave at Poly Performance had the Uniball created with performance in mind. This joint is designed for those seeking a tight, maintenance free, extremely high quality joint with maximum misalignment capabilities. It uses a high-quality, precision, FK spherical bearing and trick custom-machined misalignment spacers held in a tubular cartridge body much like the RE bearing

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nice tips on welding Uniball ..

http://www.prerunners.net/uniball/tid_4947-tpn_1-p_9/uniball.htm

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Forget the rear John, you've done that, lets leave this as an IFS thread

And it can stay an IFS thread.....however we need to look at GRAB's TOTAL picture and what he wants.

If he wants to beef up the IFS for dune jumping then we can keep going the way things are.

If is is trying to add more vehicle articulation and off-road capability then we need to see what he has on the rear of the truck NOW.

He's debating a multi-thousand dollar IFS mod. Is he aware that he can have his rear articulation dramatically increased to be identical to an FZJ80 with a simple 30-minute bolt-on solution? If not, he might care if articulation and travel are important. Furthermore, IF this is his focus, then he might be satisfied with the improvements that simple mod makes. It could save him A LOT of money. Since I did this the 100 feels like the 80 off-road. That might enough for him.

Don't be so quick to discount 100TD...let GRAB make that choice. He may not be aware of this mod.