IFS travel gain

[ShottsUZJ100]

I read it John, and I mentioned A arms, to explain why you were wrong.......... thats how I know your wrong, you need to look at what you post being the root of why people tell you your wrong, not that someone is trying to tell you you made a mistake, cause and effect, here, if you dont like the effect John, its up to you to stop the cause.

The further out you move the wheel, the more it travels up and down, because you are moving the contact area further away from the pivot point, and the fixed top and bottom points, so it has to go up and down more, just like longer arms would do.

Do me a favor before you reply, draw an unequal A arm set up from front on on a bit of paper [look at the front of your truck if you dont know what that is and copy it] then draw the wheel out 2" more, 4" more and see how much further the wheel goes up and down, that way not only will you learn something, it will save you going on and on while being wrong in this thread, and you can thank me for helping you in a PM, rather than in the thread, so everyone doesnt see you admitted a mistake

I'll not argue/debate with you any longer. Sorry.

 

[EL_3grab]

no, which is why I made my comments earlier

are you sure .. or just think ??

if that true i will go for the 2.0 Shocks ..

all the Custom Job will be done by Rally Preparation Garage .. it will be just like drinking water for them ..

Front ........................ Rear


Pre-runner shocks 2.0:
6' Travel: 13-19 ......... 10' Travel: 17.05-27.05

OME:
N133: 11.3-17.4 .......... N74L: 15.6-26.2


So!!

 

[EL_3grab]

So .. 280USD For LTR .. Or 390USD For KINGSHOCKS (add the Custom Work )

 

[FirstToy]

It won't fit as is. Look under there yourself.

If you have a shop to do everything, than have at it but dont buy the shock before you figure out what you need. Maybe just have them figure it all out and buy the correct application.

If you plan on a coilover conversion w/ the Kings, PM Christo and Darren (4x4atsdotcom) and try to get some good, solid info to help you make the right decisions before the cutter comes out.
jmho & good luck

 

[TEPUI]

Allow me to say this: If I was going to cut and modify so much, I'd SAS her.

 

[ats4x4dotcom]

We have just fitted Fox shox to my truck [very similar to 80 in size/weight/setup] and we have measured up the 100, but the length you need means cutting off chassis brackets, and running them up into the inner front fender area, and moving what is mounted in there. Clearance to the top A arm is also critical.

We stayed away from Kings, because the importer here uses pre runner units @ race series pricing, so only plated shafts etc.

 

[ats4x4dotcom]

I'll not argue/debate with you any longer. Sorry.

Ill take that as acceptance of understanding "cause and effect" then
[not the fact you had trouble drawing out how the front end actually works ]

 

[EL_3grab]

Ok .. I will order one Shock and see what happen (Front One) .. If it work .. I will Continue .. Didn't work .. God with me ..

ats4x4dotcom

any info on Spring Rate?? (Front)

750-800 Lbs/inch

 

[ats4x4dotcom]

Ok .. I will order one Shock and see what happen (Front One) .. If it work .. I will Continue .. Didn't work .. God with me ..

ats4x4dotcom

any info on Spring Rate?? (Front)

750-800 Lbs/inch

Depends on what acc you have fitted, give me a list, and I will work out a rate for you to use.

I would of thought closer to 550-600 off the top of my head though.

The problem with a coil over is fitting the dia of the coil through the hole in the upper arm to mount to the chassis.

Lexus Hyd suspension vehicles use the same part No a arm last time I checked, so the A arm will support the vehicle, if you fix where they crack, and the top mounts are the same on a hyd suspension model, but a cross brace might be a good option for a heavy 100 with alot of acc, and putting a coil over on.

 

[EL_3grab]

Nothing .. But this Summer .. I will Swap the engine to the Gm Gen3 with 4L80E (near 230Lbs) and marks adapter .. the iron(550Lbs) or Aloy(400Lbs) Block .. not decided wet .. but they all are lighter than the 1FZ-FE and 2UZ-FE ..

i brought the 750 in/lbs From aftermatket Suspension Kit For The Tundra (Front) .. Since they use the Same engine .. and in other Post i read That The T-Barz in 1FZ-FE are Stiffer From The 2UZ-FE ..

So would it be ??>700Lbs>??

purpose of this Vechile .. Highe Speed Desert Driving .. SandDune Climbing .. Jumping .. all what you can do on the desert so put that in the Formula

...

Upper Mount on the Chassis will go .. thats for sure .. the Garage will work it out ..

 

[calamaridog]

Spring rate between 700-800 lbs. I'm guessing 750 would be a good starting point. I've ran 600-650 on the Tacoma so definitely more than that.


As far as shocks go, don't cheap out if you are going to bother with this project. Use Kings, Fox, Bilsteins, or Racerunner.

 

[EL_3grab]

How about spacers .. would it do the trick ..

1 inch spacer??

 

[ats4x4dotcom]

Thats a nasty looking conversion.....

Spacers would be ok, as long as the up travel was limited so the ball joint didnt bind on up travel.

 

[EL_3grab]

I think its gona work ..

Since i have the BATTLEZ Suspension assist kit

its Lower the Front Bump Stop By 4cm or 1.6inch　　

so i think i could use a 1.6inch Spacer or lower ..

what you think??

 

[EL_3grab]

please .. i need some cofirmation on the spring Rate ??

i made the order with 775 inch/lbs .. i have to confirm the order ..

 

[subspd]

help a guy out... I would but... well I'm stupid :whoops: so I don't think I should be the one to answer this question...

 

[calamaridog]

If you are switching to coilovers, then I would try around #750. You may have to adjust.

I'm not quite sure what you are planning exactly? Those spacer kits look dangerous.

I wouldn't try to mount coilovers unless you are doing completely new upper and lower arms and new steering links, etc. Not if you are planning on jumping it

 

[FirstToy]

EL_3grab,

I think this thread has changed from doing uca's and coilover conversion into an area where you are trying to make stopgap solutions.

You need to be careful making assumptions on what will fit. Remember, the TUndra is a coilover susp. the 100 is a torsion bar susp.

THere are a million other things to take into consideration so if you are serious, you need to take things apart and measure or get a qualified shop to help you mod the front end correctly.

 

[EL_3grab]

the spacer kits needed for any 2inch+ lifted LC100

i thought of it like this ..

shock I.D. clearance

there is a 70mm body I.D. offered to the LC100 ..

the 3inch total I.D. from the king shock is 75mm .. only 5mm difference .. thats nothing ..

and if the coil make a clearance trouble in any kind of way .. simply remove it and keep the shocks only ..

im purchaing "king" for there ultimate shocks .. not for a coilover conversation ..

but i would try it ..

thanks .. every one

 

[DirtyHarry]

How about spacers .. would it do the trick ..

1 inch spacer??

Yeah, I would think that you could use a ball joint spacer like those available from 4Crawler for 86-95 IFS (torsion bar) Toyota pickups.

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/BallJointSpacer.shtml

That would allow for some additional travel when coupled with slightly longer shocks (if available?). I saw Bull's thread about the front OME shocks being the same length and stock, is there a Bilstein or OME that is slightly longer?

Harry (no 100 series... yet)