If you're using a WIX oil filter read this (2 Viewers)

[LS1FJ40]

The problem is Toyota would have the same exact response if you took a defective filter back to them. There's no way they'd graciously accept responsibility to rebuild your 20+ year old 1FZ to the tune of $5-7k. The only thing you're getting by using OEM filters is the assumption (piece of mind?) that their quality control is to a higher standard than aftermarket filter producers. As @beno has alluded to several times on here lately, Toyota is on a bullet train to GM-ville with bean-counters running the show, not passionate auto enthusiasts. I'd bet before long we'll see this exact same thread but with the Thai-made OEM spec filter. Well, maybe better put...it wouldn't surprise me.

Give me one example to support your claim. Not speculation. An example of Toyota turning their back on a customer due to failure.

Look at what the two companies have to lose. Then realize the absurdity of your claim.

Wix loses your filter business. 3 filters per year for the next 40 years. Call it $600.

Toyota loses your business. They lose service business. Used car business (Mr T doesn’t care about this but the dealership does). New car business. Parts business. Over 40 years that is potentially tens of thousands of business. PLUS the negative word of mouth.

 

[Red Merle]

Give me one example to support your claim. Not speculation. An example of Toyota turning their back on a customer due to failure.

Look at what the two companies have to lose. Then realize the absurdity of your claim.

Wix loses your filter business. 3 filters per year for the next 40 years. Call it $600.

Toyota loses your business. They lose service business. Used car business (Mr T doesn’t care about this but the dealership does). New car business. Parts business. Over 40 years that is potentially tens of thousands of business. PLUS the negative word of mouth.

I would agree that it is possible that Toyota could go the route of GM, but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see how that has played out for GM over the course of the last 30 years. There was a time when the idea that, "If it's good for GM, it's good for America." actually meant something. Then they started focusing entirely on the bottom line and thought we were all going to be loyal to them, regardless of the crap they were shoving down their throats. Even people like my Dad, who is a Stars and Bars, American Made, loyalist just had to say "enough is enough" after his Chrysler minivan needed three transmissions in the first 50,000 miles. He sold that piece of junk and has owned Toyota only for the last 25 years. He still feels like he is supporting the Americans he really cares about because many of the models are made in the US, by Americans.

Toyota has built their massive market share and very loyal customer base by providing a very high quality product, especially during their heyday from around 1985 until about 2000. The auto industry is extremely competitive and people will turn their backs on any company that chooses to turn their backs on them. While GM was going bankrupt, Toyota was taking over the top spot as the number one car company(in terms of sales) and that happened in large part because GM got complacent and arrogant and took it's customers for granted(sure, there were other issues like the legacy costs for UAW workers, etc, but Ford somehow managed to deal with that without going TU, partially because at least for their truck line, they still made good vehicles).

 

[4G63 POWER]

Toyota will never go the route of gm. They invented lean manufacturing and there oil filters are too good.

 

[Funner]

I recently bought an 1996 fzj80 with a bad rod knock. The seller told me “I threw my left over case of oil filters in the back since I won’t be able to use them”. I thought nothing of it at the time, got home and opened the back to find 1/2 dozen wix 51348 filters. Proof that was the problem, no, but I won’t use them. Looks like they are going up on CL...lol

 

[OGBeno]

Toyota will never go the route of gm. They invented lean manufacturing and there oil filters are too good.

Wanna bet?

Toyota is the new old GM.

 

[Proven]

Just found this today. We didn’t notice any pressure issues while working on the truck until today on a test drive to check brakes. Noticed low oil pressure with stock gauge which can be normal but this was pretty low. Customer had oil changed 2k miles ago. Put the manual gauge and with the Napa gold 1348 on this 80 series all we could get was 15psi at idle and 18psi at 2k. Put a new wix 51348 and readings were to say it lightly normal.

Will be calling wix tomorrow.

HOLY JUMPING JUNIPERS! That's a HUGE difference!!!

 

[4G63 POWER]

Wanna bet?

Toyota is the new old GM.

Nope, not happening. They are all for electric & hybrid vehicles unlike gm who scrapped the idea back in the day.

 

[Funner]

Nope, not happening. They are all for electric & hybrid vehicles unlike gm who scrapped the idea back in the day.

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[4G63 POWER]

Re-read my post. "back in the day". Who Killed the Electric Car? - Wikipedia
In the 90's they killed the ev-1. This backwards thinking is what i am referring to. Toyota has embraced electric vehicles since day one.

 

[blkprj80]

I had a Wix 51515XP in my drawer of potential oil filters. I took a quick look at it. It has an orange anti drainback flapper inside the inlet holes. Out of curiosity, I poked it with my little punch. It was sort of "stuck" and required a bit of effort to open it. As if the orange (silicone?) disk was stuck to the metal filter body. It moved freely after I loosened it. I pressed my punch at each of the holes, and each one had resistance and a definite "tick" when it released. A second push on each required no effort to move it again.
I don't know if this would have caused engine failure, but I can see where low pressure may not have been able to overcome the stuck flapper, especially with a known "low oil pressure at idle" engine.
I'm glad I didn't use this filter.
Thanks to whoever posted the link to epay. I bought 5 filters/gaskets and they came from a toyota dealer in FL.

 

[Seth_O]

Huge thanks to the OP for this thread. I know my thanks does nothing for your catastrophic loss, however, you being vocal saved my landcruiser last night.

post here: Ih8mud saved my landcruiser....

I had a WIX 51348 on my cruiser and had a sudden, unexplained loss in oil pressure. I swapped out the filter and suddenly my issue went away. I haven't gotten into the filter to verify that the check valve is bad, but having the problem be completely fixed after changing the filter is fairly condemning.

In my opinion: one is an isolated incident, two is coincidence, three is evidence. I believe mine is at least the 3rd time we've seen this in the last year or so on this forum alone. Regardless for me this means no more WIX products on any of my vehicles, and I will caution everyone I speak with against them.

 

[onemanarmy]

Nope, not happening. They are all for electric & hybrid vehicles unlike gm who scrapped the idea back in the day.

GM or Toyota's product line has nothing to do with whether or not they build a quality product.

and Lean does not automatically mean quality. It means more efficient production, and a bit larger bottom line.

 

[onemanarmy]

My fram filters have always served me well. Knock on wood.

maybe we should not use oil filters for everyday DD duty. Just keep up with more regular oil changes.

 

[BILT4ME]

I saw this on another forum and this may be an indication how this has all started and why we have not all experienced it in all the previous years.
Dated 8/17/2015.

Wix Filters Parent Company Sold to German Company

 

[Wompom]

I just opened the oil cooler on a motor that died due to oil starvation, while using a Wix (napa gold) filter. It was sent to them, who of course said no fault. Am i crazy or does this look like a part of the filter?

 

[Kaninja]

I just opened the oil cooler on a motor that died due to oil starvation, while using a Wix (napa gold) filter. It was sent to them, who of course said no fault. Am i crazy or does this look like a part of the filter?View attachment 1694575 View attachment 1694576

To me it looks like chunks of the anti-drainback valve. Same orange colour that Wix uses. Yikes.

 

[Wompom]

To me it looks like chunks of the anti-drainback valve. Same orange colour that Wix uses. Yikes.

Exactly what I thought. I shouldn't have let them take the filter .

 

[Kaninja]

Exactly what I thought. I shouldn't have let them take the filter .

That sucks. Not sure how many of these Wix filters have the bed and taken out good motors, but it sure seems Wix filter failure on the 1FZ is a common thing now.

 

[Red Merle]

That sucks. Not sure how many of these Wix filters have the bed and taken out good motors, but it sure seems Wix filter failure on the 1FZ is a common thing now.

Even if you don't change your own oil you will always be allowed to provide your own filter. Toyota filters are not notably more expensive and they are available in bulk.

 

[AJP]

That sucks. Not sure how many of these Wix filters have the bed and taken out good motors, but it sure seems Wix filter failure on the 1FZ is a common thing now.

Please - STAY away from Wix !!! Just a quick note to share a warning - I will elaborate a little more later on but I had a serious issue with lost oil pressure earlier this year --- was a Wix .... I went the route of reporting the issue to their local and corporate personnel etc (all the details - samples etc ) ... They deny any problem with their filter despite the previous absence of ANY oil pressure issues before I used the Wix filter -- or since -- having changed back to Toyota and Mobil One oil filters.

If you install a Wix oil filter on your vehicle -- you are playing Russian Roulette IMO.

(they actually offered me a few free filters!! I had to laugh!! Who would be crazy enough to continue using their filters under the circumstances!??!?)