Getting rid of a vehicle because it doesn't pass inspections is common. I had the same thing occur with my first 100. Frame rot caused it to fail. Took some digging but after a year I located a rust free LX for much less in much nicer condition. I'd personally pass on this vehicle, knowing some of the history
Howdy, I'm new! Wanted to say hi. About to purchase a 2000 100 series and wanted some opinions
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This is very helpful. Thank you. I linked the damage in another comment thread, and it really does look all cosmetic. Maybe a deer or something? My biggest concern is the emissions stuff, because I'm not really into going to spend 2500 on fixes right after I get a truck I've been wanting for a while haha
I'd strongly encourage you to find another. If you're getting codes that lead to O2 replacement (I'm guessing P0420 and/or P0430) that's normally the code for inefficient cat and commonly means the cat is tired. Replacement cats are something like $1250. EACH. At a discounted rate. It's a hugely expensive repair to have to consider on a vehicle that's not priced low. Add to that the salvage title and known damage (cosmetic or not, that's significant damage in your link) and this is just a poor proposition.
This might not be a bad deal, but there are multiple risk factors that we know of, which are not present in most 100's up for sale at this price point. This one seems to be an unnecessary risk, IMO.
I recently sold my extremely clean 99 for $13k with tons of recent OEM parts, classy (so says I) upgrades and perfectly clean and well-documented history.
Colorado generally has high prices for these, but here are some quick examples.
denver for sale "land cruiser" - craigslist
denver for sale "land cruiser" - craigslist
1999 Toyota Land Cruiser Base DIFF LOCK - cars & trucks - by dealer...
1999 Toyota Land Cruiser Base DIFF LOCK For sale by: Stans Auto Sales Phone: Website: https://www.stansautosalesllc.com Address: 7192 Newton St. Westminster, CO 80030 Call/Text us at Year: 1999...
denver.craigslist.org
Toyota landcruiser - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive...
Hi everyone I’m selling my be loved 1998 Toyota landcruiser this is one of the the kind fully loaded it’s ready to take you any where in the world I’m 200% Guarantee the Engine has full compression,...
denver.craigslist.org
2001 Toyota Land Cruise 4.7L DOHC EFI 32-VALVE 167070 Miles...
2001 Toyota Land Cruiser 4.7L DOHC EFI 32-VALVE V8 167070 Miles Automatic Transmission 4x4 -Nice SUV, runs and drives awesome with all the best options including : Gas Mileage: 16 City / 20 Hwy Dual...
denver.craigslist.org
2002 LEXUS LX470 ,Toyota Land Cruiser174K. miles , ARB winch bumper....
2002 Lexus LX 470, Toyota Land cruiser 100 series . only 174k. miles. CALL ONLY 720 27 six six six 97. Very clean , runs and drives perfect. ARB winch bumper for Lexus. many new parts. New Good year...
denver.craigslist.org
2000 Toyota Land Cruiser - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle...
2000 Landcruiser - $16,000 I purchased her in 2015 and have spent the last 5 years loving her like a family member & getting her to where I want her to be. I’d like to find her a good new home,...
denver.craigslist.org
and for fun: 1973 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ 40 - cars & trucks - by dealer - vehicle... - https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/littleton-1973-toyota-land-cruiser-fj-40/7272927628.html
He's a car dealer, he likely wants cash instead of a car.
There aren't many emissions-related issues with these trucks, aside from simply replacing O2 sensors. So it's likely the cats which are expensive.
Are there any OBD codes? Is the Check Engine light on? Have you seen the DEQ failed emissions report?
Some good examples of trucks in there, but the 2002 LX470 is a good example of what I was talking about. ARB bumper, after market headlights, mediocre paint on the drivers front fender and the core support is not the original color all adds up to this truck having been in a collision. The title says "rebuilt" which is a status to can apply for after you repair a totaled vehicle. I wouldn't want to pay 15K for a poorly repaired vehicle. My guess is this was a DIY repair since I can't imagine a shop doing this level of work.I'd strongly encourage you to find another. If you're getting codes that lead to O2 replacement (I'm guessing P0420 and/or P0430) that's normally the code for inefficient cat and commonly means the cat is tired. Replacement cats are something like $1250. EACH. At a discounted rate. It's a hugely expensive repair to have to consider on a vehicle that's not priced low. Add to that the salvage title and known damage (cosmetic or not, that's significant damage in your link) and this is just a poor proposition.
This might not be a bad deal, but there are multiple risk factors that we know of, which are not present in most 100's up for sale at this price point. This one seems to be an unnecessary risk, IMO.
I recently sold my extremely clean 99 for $13k with tons of recent OEM parts, classy (so says I) upgrades and perfectly clean and well-documented history.
Colorado generally has high prices for these, but here are some quick examples.
denver for sale "land cruiser" - craigslist
denver for sale "land cruiser" - craigslistdenver.craigslist.org
1999 Toyota Land Cruiser Base DIFF LOCK - cars & trucks - by dealer...
1999 Toyota Land Cruiser Base DIFF LOCK For sale by: Stans Auto Sales Phone: Website: https://www.stansautosalesllc.com Address: 7192 Newton St. Westminster, CO 80030 Call/Text us at Year: 1999...denver.craigslist.orgToyota landcruiser - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive...
Hi everyone I’m selling my be loved 1998 Toyota landcruiser this is one of the the kind fully loaded it’s ready to take you any where in the world I’m 200% Guarantee the Engine has full compression,...denver.craigslist.org2001 Toyota Land Cruise 4.7L DOHC EFI 32-VALVE 167070 Miles...
2001 Toyota Land Cruiser 4.7L DOHC EFI 32-VALVE V8 167070 Miles Automatic Transmission 4x4 -Nice SUV, runs and drives awesome with all the best options including : Gas Mileage: 16 City / 20 Hwy Dual...denver.craigslist.org2002 LEXUS LX470 ,Toyota Land Cruiser174K. miles , ARB winch bumper....
2002 Lexus LX 470, Toyota Land cruiser 100 series . only 174k. miles. CALL ONLY 720 27 six six six 97. Very clean , runs and drives perfect. ARB winch bumper for Lexus. many new parts. New Good year...denver.craigslist.org2000 Toyota Land Cruiser - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle...
2000 Landcruiser - $16,000 I purchased her in 2015 and have spent the last 5 years loving her like a family member & getting her to where I want her to be. I’d like to find her a good new home,...denver.craigslist.org
and for fun: 1973 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ 40 - cars & trucks - by dealer - vehicle... - https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/littleton-1973-toyota-land-cruiser-fj-40/7272927628.html
1 Owner 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser - cars & trucks - by owner -... - https://boise.craigslist.org/cto/d/boise-owner-2004-toyota-land-cruiser/7270685064.html
This is in Boise. It would be a drive but worth it to buy from original owner that can tell you everything about the truck. Better deal in my opinion. Been for sale a week or so. He already dropped $1000 off his original asking price. Might. E willing to go a little lower.
This is in Boise. It would be a drive but worth it to buy from original owner that can tell you everything about the truck. Better deal in my opinion. Been for sale a week or so. He already dropped $1000 off his original asking price. Might. E willing to go a little lower.
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Alright, received the inspection from Lemon squad. The only mechanical issues listed are "The engine shows active oil leaks. The engine should be pressure washed off and rechecked to verify source of the leak or all leaks."
No codes for any emissions issues reported. I assume I'd have to have this looked at further to understand the severity of the oil leak?
Anyone able to take a look at this report for me and see if you see something that I don't?
No codes for any emissions issues reported. I assume I'd have to have this looked at further to understand the severity of the oil leak?
Anyone able to take a look at this report for me and see if you see something that I don't?
Valve cover gaskets are common items. I've got all the parts to do mine on my 05 LX. If it's something like the front main seal, it's a much bigger job. If it's a rear main, it's a very big job. If it's head gaskets its a massive job. Even the valve cover gaskets are pricey unless you do them yourself because it's a ton of labor. They parts are only like $100.
I think you just answered your own question. Don’t buy any 100 series. Especially not this one. “Wanting one for a while” isn’t the same as wanting one and being ready for it.
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My stock 99 no rear locker, CO one owner truck, a folder full of receipts for all work done, 206k miles purchased in March of 2020 $6500.
Torn CV boot, needs a TB and WP service.
IMHO Its not worth it.
Torn CV boot, needs a TB and WP service.
IMHO Its not worth it.
That's the one I would pick, pending due diligence on where it spent its life. My guess is there will be some items of concern in the Carfax at that price. Most dealers here are well aware of what the market will pay.
Desirable rear locker DIFF LOCK he's playing games, an ok price. The miles don't scare me.
That said I would baseline and preventative maintenance alot of items.
1999 Toyota Land Cruiser Base DIFF LOCK - cars & trucks - by dealer...
1999 Toyota Land Cruiser Base DIFF LOCK For sale by: Stans Auto Sales Phone: Website: https://www.stansautosalesllc.com Address: 7192 Newton St. Westminster, CO 80030 Call/Text us at Year: 1999...
denver.craigslist.org
That said I would baseline and preventative maintenance alot of items.
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Post up the report. Plenty of us love to play backseat mechanic.
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Haha, alright. It's attached. To be honest I'm a bit dissapointed in this report, as it mostly focuses on the cosmetics which really are the last of my concerns. No codes reported for emissions though, so that's a win?Post up the report. Plenty of us love to play backseat mechanic.
Fixed that last line for ya.
Without seeing pics of the rust, it's hard to say, but that doesn't sound good.
Their mechanical inspection is pretty lax, t seems. The rest of the report is pretty detailed, I think.
An oil leak sufficient to smoke from the wheel wells is not normal for a 100. That's concerning, but it could be something simple.
I stand by my initial judgement here. Too many risk factors for that price. If you want a project to wrench on, try to get them down to $6k. If you want a car you won't spend $3k to baseline immediately, I'd pass on this... and perhaps most 100 series for that matter.
These aren't cheap cars to keep in decent shape.
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Ah man. Alright. This is a super bummer, but I hear yall. This is the rust.Fixed that last line for ya.
Without seeing pics of the rust, it's hard to say, but that doesn't sound good.
Their mechanical inspection is pretty lax, t seems. The rest of the report is pretty detailed, I think.
An oil leak sufficient to smoke from the wheel wells is not normal for a 100. That's concerning, but it could be something simple.
I stand by my initial judgement here. Too many risk factors for that price. If you want a project to wrench on, try to get them down to $6k. If you want a car you won't spend $3k to baseline immediately, I'd pass on this... and perhaps most 100 series for that matter.
Sounds like you're really determined to buy this s*** pile. Everyone is telling you to walk but you keep going back to the same lemon. Comical!
Why not spend another $2K and get a decent car? It's not like this is some low mileage salvage title car that you're getting for 30%+ cheaper than a clean title car. You're getting absolutely ripped off at $11K for a 230K mile salvage 21yr old pile of junk that won't pass emissions.
Here's a linear logical breakdown of the issue you're facing: the car is overpriced for the year, mileage and title status, the seller is a dealer (i.e. he knows what he's doing or knows people that do), he already replaced one or more O2 sensor(s), the car still failed emissions, he knows it likely needs new catalytic converters, he decided to pass the buck onto the next sucker (you, in this case), new cats cost $2500, you'll be spending that $2500 to repair the car, and then some. Let that sink in for a minute. There are a ton of these high mileage cars on the market with a clean title for the same money, and they pass emissions.
edit: add rust bucket somewhere in there, as well.
Why not spend another $2K and get a decent car? It's not like this is some low mileage salvage title car that you're getting for 30%+ cheaper than a clean title car. You're getting absolutely ripped off at $11K for a 230K mile salvage 21yr old pile of junk that won't pass emissions.
Here's a linear logical breakdown of the issue you're facing: the car is overpriced for the year, mileage and title status, the seller is a dealer (i.e. he knows what he's doing or knows people that do), he already replaced one or more O2 sensor(s), the car still failed emissions, he knows it likely needs new catalytic converters, he decided to pass the buck onto the next sucker (you, in this case), new cats cost $2500, you'll be spending that $2500 to repair the car, and then some. Let that sink in for a minute. There are a ton of these high mileage cars on the market with a clean title for the same money, and they pass emissions.
edit: add rust bucket somewhere in there, as well.
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Just trying to do my due diligence here lawrence! Gotta make absolutely sure it's not something that I should pursue after spending money on a PPI. No need to be so didactic! After seeing the report and listening to all of you I'm not going to move forward with it. Take it easy on someone who has very basic knowledge of all this stuff
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Thanks to everyone who responded, decided I'm not going to go through with it after the PPI. So I guess I'll be hitting the classifieds and craigslist again, womp
I will say a few things as someone who has owned a Prius, two Tacomas, and now a 100.
I would expand your search for vehicle options, obviously this is me not understanding your motives.
The leap from Prius to 100 for a camping rig is pretty big and there are plenty of capable vehicles in between those two. Any reason you aren’t looking at Tacomas or 4Runners? Heck the world version of the Mitsubishi Montero is known as a capable off-road/“overlanding” rig and you can even get a locker from the factory. There are Xterras, cherokees, etc. that could expand your options and lessen any sense of urgency. Heck, buy a cheap early model LR Disco and put a few thousand into it. Cheaper than most any 100 these days.
I would expand your search for vehicle options, obviously this is me not understanding your motives.
The leap from Prius to 100 for a camping rig is pretty big and there are plenty of capable vehicles in between those two. Any reason you aren’t looking at Tacomas or 4Runners? Heck the world version of the Mitsubishi Montero is known as a capable off-road/“overlanding” rig and you can even get a locker from the factory. There are Xterras, cherokees, etc. that could expand your options and lessen any sense of urgency. Heck, buy a cheap early model LR Disco and put a few thousand into it. Cheaper than most any 100 these days.
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Considered the Tacoma and 4Runner heavily for quite some time. After test driving a few, I just found them to be a little small for me (driving, and space in the back to build a sleeping platform etc.) The land cruiser has been on my radar for 6 months because I can get a good one for a lot less than a taco or 4runner, it’s a great size for my family, and I just love the look of them. the reliability factor is a big deal too. Not crazy about the other options you mentioned, mostly because I’d like to have a Toyota. I’ve only ever owned Toyota’s and they’ve always served me very well. I’ve considered the Sequoia and also open to it, just gotta find the right one. I think the reason i lean toward land cruiser is after market support, and I’d like to build it out quite a bit in the future.