Happy Holidays!! Raptor VS TLC VS LX570

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Go to your local dealer. Be prepared. When I was looking at purchasing one a couple years ago, dealers wanted anywhere from $7,500 to $15,000 markup. I laughed, walked out, and bought a 200.

2018 is at MSRP. Some of the dealership has 5K+Off on the 2018 model.
 
I have a 2017 Raptor in my driveway right now. Rented it on Turo as an extended test drive of sorts. It’s a great truck, but I won’t be getting rid of the 200 for one any time soon.

Standard Raptor isn't a speed demon and the 200 or the Nissan Armada IMO will dust it all day.

 
My close friend and neighbor has a 2018 Raptor, with all the options, and I have a 2015 LX. We take them both hunting and hiking with the dogs a lot so we’ve both spent a lot of time driving each other’s.

My thoughts:
- Raptor is much better for hauling deer
- Raptor has better infotainment
- Raptor is marginally faster
- Raptor 10-speed gearbox means roughly the same fuel economy
- LX interior is substantially better - the leather is in a totally different class and the Raptor has lots of hard plastic
- LX is much much much quieter (and we both run BFG TA KO2)
-LX has much better stereo
- Raptor is too wide for comfort on some trails

I would take the Raptor for pre-running Baja but for Northeast skiing/camping/hunting trips, I prefer the LX. But then, when I need my deer hauled to the processor, I just call my buddy with the Raptor...
 
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Standard Raptor isn't a speed demon and the 200 or the Nissan Armada IMO will dust it all day.
No chance a 200 beats a Raptor 0-60. The difference is at least half a second. My buddy’s Raptor is 100 lbs less than my LX and makes 60-70 hp more and 100 ft-lbs of torque more. Even a poorly-calibrated butt dyno can tell the difference sitting in them back to back. Obviously, 6000-lb trucks aren’t meant for drag racing so this isn’t a criteria of mine... but there it is.
 
Happy Holidays!!! Any thoughts on the Ford Raptors? Which one should I buy? TIA!

I just recently sold my 2018 Raptor that was loaded up with all the bells and whistles for a 19 LC. Reason being it only had 6k miles on it and it already had transmission issues and the timing chain and cam phasers also needed to be replaced... those parts are on back order for 2-3 months per ford. The timing chain and cam phaser issue is evidently a known issue on the 3.5 HO Ecoboost motors. If you want a Raptor I strongly suggest joining a Raptor Forum and Facebook page to see what everyone else is going through. Truck was never abused in any way and properly broken in. Just my 2 cents coming from one.
 
I just recently sold my 2018 Raptor that was loaded up with all the bells and whistles for a 19 LC. Reason being it only had 6k miles on it and it already had transmission issues and the timing chain and cam phasers also needed to be replaced... those parts are on back order for 2-3 months per ford. The timing chain and cam phaser issue is evidently a known issue on the 3.5 HO Ecoboost motors. If you want a Raptor I strongly suggest joining a Raptor Forum and Facebook page to see what everyone else is going through. Truck was never abused in any way and properly broken in. Just my 2 cents coming from one.

Woah...
6k miles...
No abuse...
Part back ordered for months...

-Sounds like Ford has an bonafide epidemic on their hands.
Sheesh.

Honestly, when the massive demand and high margins for the Raptor is so clear...seems like Toyota should consider a souped up desert runner version of the Tundra. With the 5.7’s beastly power and the system’s rock solid reliability...they could easily tweak it to be an absolute performance beast. They could also charge a mint if they just managed to hit the Raptor’s “cool factor...”
 
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Wish.
6k miles...
No abuse...
Part back ordered for months...

-Sounds like Ford has an bonafide epidemic on their hands.
Sheesh.

Honestly, when the massive demand and high margins for the Raptor is so clear...seems like Toyota should consider a souped up desert runner version of the Tundra. With the 5.7’s beastly power and the system’s rock solid reliability...they could easily tweak it to be an absolute performance beast. They could also charge a mint if they just managed to hit the Raptor’s “cool factor...”

I agree Toyota could put something together and absolutely destroy the Raptor. Heck even use the 5.0 motor that is used in the RCF and tweak it for a truck and it would be a beast. If you want to truly feel good about Toyota quality just visit fordraptorforums.com and see how many issues everyone is having and how many people are getting the truck bought back from Ford.

Engine rattle/noise at start up | FORD RAPTOR FORUM - Ford SVT Raptor Forums - Ford Raptor
 
Woah...
6k miles...
No abuse...
Part back ordered for months...

-Sounds like Ford has an bonafide epidemic on their hands.
Sheesh.

Also reminiscent of the head issues on the 2.3 in the focus RS.

I remember reading the new 7.1L motor was going into raptors soon. Did that pan out?
 
I just recently sold my 2018 Raptor that was loaded up with all the bells and whistles for a 19 LC. Reason being it only had 6k miles on it and it already had transmission issues and the timing chain and cam phasers also needed to be replaced... those parts are on back order for 2-3 months per ford. The timing chain and cam phaser issue is evidently a known issue on the 3.5 HO Ecoboost motors. If you want a Raptor I strongly suggest joining a Raptor Forum and Facebook page to see what everyone else is going through. Truck was never abused in any way and properly broken in. Just my 2 cents coming from one.

That's wild. I know the government regulations forced their hand but they never should have put an EcoBoost in that thing. The more complex the more that can go wrong.

Also reminiscent of the head issues on the 2.3 in the focus RS.

I remember reading the new 7.1L motor was going into raptors soon. Did that pan out?

Last I read (a few weeks ago) it was still just a rumor for the 2020 model.
 
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