Found LX with Great Service Records But Dealer is Repairing Oil Leak...?

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This is kind of where I am at. It is VERY evident that the 5.7 was not tested nearly as much as the 4.7. The 2UZ was and is BOMBPROOF and that alone is swaying my decision to look at GX/LX 470s.

The evidence on this board and the Tundra’s is clear evidence of that.

The 4.7 had its issues. The exhaust manifolds could crack and that was apparently a bear to replace (required pulling the engine). Then there was the air injection pump failure that could also require pulling the engine.
 
Niether induction pump failure on (VVT 06,07 only) or the cracked exhaust manifold on early model year 100’s requires the engine to come out. Both jobs are 2 or 3 hr jobs on thier own.

But yeah each platform has its powertrain gremlins. 80 series HG issue, 100 series 98-99 front diff, 2000 tranmission failure, 03/04 trans shudder but hardly any engine issues with 2UZFE. Thing is, the US made 5.7L 3UR-FE seems to have its share of early fail points <100k miles you just wouldnt expect to see from a highly evolved Toyota product.
 
Yeah Lexus Service history- so its fair to say that Autocheck does not utilize any research beyond a police report or insurance claim to factor "accident" history. Customer paid out of pocket, but you would think that because it was run through the body shop it would show on public records.

I also had a really awful experience (actually the worst retail buying experience I've ever had in 30 years of buying and selling cars) at a local Atlanta Lexus dealer over the weekend in the form of mind games, high pressure close tactics, questionable practices with regard to pressure to use their finance, and some other unsavory slimy sales shenanigans that has me pretty much turned off to the entire brand as a result. With Lexus being all about the "ownership experience" one would expect at this level of auto ownership you might expect straight up professional business transaction, not the tactics of a dirt lot used car dealer; in fact I've had better treatment from local government services..... I did not buy the vehicle.

I'd post up a thread on that buying experience with details to warn other buyers of the dealer, but I dont know if the 200 series forum is the right place for that. I will say they pissed me off enough to start a campaign.

I'd post about it. Why not? Consider it your civic duty to your fellow inmates here at mud and in your general orbit. In the age of social media and immediate information transfer, they should be cognizant of what goes on in their shop. If I was the owner of said dealership, I'd sure welcome critical feedback, so that I may be certain only the best experiences happen or address / adjust accordingly. Unless of course it's from the top down, all the antics, but from my experience that seems atypical of a Lexus operation.
 
Niether induction pump failure on (VVT 06,07 only) or the cracked exhaust manifold on early model year 100’s requires the engine to come out. Both jobs are 2 or 3 hr jobs on thier own.

But yeah each platform has its powertrain gremlins. 80 series HG issue, 100 series 98-99 front diff, 2000 tranmission failure, 03/04 trans shudder but hardly any engine issues with 2UZFE. Thing is, the US made 5.7L 3UR-FE seems to have its share of early fail points <100k miles you just wouldnt expect to see from a highly evolved Toyota product.

I had a V8 4Runner. I believe that fixing either of those issues on the 4Runner required pulling the engine.
 
The timing cover was leaking and that is what they’re repairing now.

The car is spotless otherwise.

Really torn on what to do.
 
@04UZJ100 If all is good otherwise, then you now have a major, known issue, out of the way, with at least a year or 12k warranty I believe. Also, being lexus/toyota dealer, for a potentially exorbitant fee, perhaps add the TEC warranty, for added peace of mind, if you roll that way.

Have them check the valley plate / heat exchanger why they are in there since it'll be apart.

Coolant leak from what appears to be center rear of motor.
 
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Cars break down. If it's fixed, and there isn't any long term harm that happened before the fix was applied (sounds like this type of leak doesn't lead to other wear issues) then what is the concern?

The repair itself will carry the short term service warranty, 3 months or whatever.

If there is evidence that the owner or dealer are trying to hide other issues that is one thing; is this that?
 
On a $80k++ vehicle with a image built on being the most reliable brand, and then owners are experiencing expensive, extensive to repair engine oil leaks, premature starter failures, coolant leaks arising under 100k miles on a platform of this caliber concerns me. Never thought the idea of a $2500 for extended warranty would be a worthy consideration for a 200 series LX ot LC platform until now.
i don’t keep my LC or the wife’s LX at high enough mileage before trading them in, thus haven’t seen these problems

But from reading here and your posts, that would be concerning for me for a “reliable suv”


Don’t know if the following applies to our 200 platform, but if so, disconcerting for higher mileage guys:

Secondary air injection pump AIP
 
I would also check the steering rack on a PPI, mine started leaking at 98k and was $3,500 to replace. If they are doing the front cover have them install a new water pump and radiator as Part of the repair. Radiator’s fail at 115-120k it seems like, mine does not have that many miles on it, but the forum is full of warnings on it.

Jblatl,

where did you get the work done?
 
While the $1700 bill seems like alot it's the dealers bill and the issue is fixed. If everything else is clean I'd grab it before someone on here buys it first.

I agree with Noah, you should go ahead and get it. The 200 are hard to find. I would definitely have it pre-inspected.
 
I just drove home in the driving rain in my 15lx with puddles going over the hood and everyone stopped with hazards, just went to high and kept going. Michelin Defenders are bomb digity and my LX is a great swimmer. My nickname was "black beauty", but now its "Tanko Mas Grande".
 
Looking at a 2014 Alaska truck with 70k miles on it for $45k. All dealer service.

It’s gone through 2 windshields replaced at the Lexus dealer but that’s not uncommon up here in Alaska.

They also have a 2014 with 45k miles on it for $48k that has more sporadic service records.

Both 1 owner vehicles.


Decisions decisions.....
 
If this was a more prevalent problem like head gaskets leak on an 80 or manifold crack on a 100 there would be a lot more threads here. There are a few that it happened to, but this is a very low %. I am the guy who changed the headgasket in my 80 just so I wouldnt have to deal with it if it started to leak. I am also the guy who replaced the headers with DT Headers so I wouldnt have to deal with a cracked header pipe on my 100.

I looked at the data here:meh: and am not concerned or looking to do anything about it

For every post that you read about this, go look at Monica and how they beat the crap out of her on the Baja race every year and that will make you feel better about pulling the trigger. That is what did it for me

Now watch me walk out to the garage and see a big leak on my garage floor;)
 
Looking at a 2014 Alaska truck with 70k miles on it for $45k. All dealer service.

It’s gone through 2 windshields replaced at the Lexus dealer but that’s not uncommon up here in Alaska.

They also have a 2014 with 45k miles on it for $48k that has more sporadic service records.

Both 1 owner vehicles.


Decisions decisions.....


45K isnt a lot of miles and doesnt require a lot of maintenance up till then other than oil changes. 70K with good service records is almost as good

I would go see which one you like better.
 
Took a closer look and drove both.

The 45k one has more sporadic dealer history. It had a slight vibration at speed and is very apparent that the recent windshield job was incorrect as there is significant wind noise at all speeds. Upon closer inspection, it is a piece of molding that is definitely not installed correctly. The ventilated seat on the DS did not function either.

The one with 73k has dealer records every 5k although there is a gap between 59k and 73k???? It’s apparent it was driven by a woman based on the scratches on the door handle. Body is in great shape and the interior only shows minor wear. Alaska is great because they don’t use any salt so under carriage is spotless. The gravel and dirt do take their toll on cars, though. Clean carfax, seamless body panel alignment and no indication of repaints on the edges of any panel. It has had two windshields but both were replaced at the Lexus dealer indicating the PO wasn’t afraid to spend Lexus service $$ on it. The last one was replaced nearly 20k ago so I’m confident any electrical gremlins would have already presented themselves. Molding gaps are all even and weather stripping is not bulging anywhere.

This car will be used as a DD by my wife while I work 2 weeks at a time on the North Slope. She is a full time caregiver for two young children which is the main motivation for this purchase. It’s a safety thing for me and I want her in something bigger than her current Tiguan while I’m away. She drives nearly 14k a year which is substantial to me. I called the local tire place and can get studded tires for $1200 installed and balanced which is a must here in Alaska for us.

No indication of any oil leaks through either wheel well. I told them the purchase is contingent on the full dealer service records as the Lexus owners site only shows so much. It did just have brakes front and rear, battery, and the 160pt dealer inspection. It has a line item about wheel shimmy “repair” but I did not detect any up to 85mph. Could be as simple as a tire balance thing. Looks to have relatively new Michelin’s on it as well.

Going to take it out on a loan for the day on Saturday with a $500 deposit so I can really go through it with a fine tooth comb, check functionality of all components, and crawl around underneath. Anything specific I should look for?

Only one other thing of note is the AC fan is not as powerful as the 2004 LC. The 2004 is like a wind tunnel on full blast. I was not impressed with the volume coming out of either vehicle. Side note but something I noticed....even on Lo and full recirc.
 
There is a thread on AC Fan replacement around here somewhere. Not expensive and it's under the dash on Passenger side....looks pretty easy if something is wrong with it. And if the purchase is CPO, it'd be covered anyway.
 
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