ats4x4dotcom said:I dont normally state the obvious, but now you have, I guess you could say that is correct, without making a mod like a bump stop spacer, which the N74 needs as well, you have only .6" more travel than a "standard 2-3" lift" or mod the mount, because a shock wont get longer extended, without being longer compressed, and the vehicle has fixed dimensions these need to fit into, unles you mod something........ are you still with me here? [if longer shocks was easy, everyone would be doing it, of course...]
So we use a 10mm body spacer, and no bump stop spacer, for our "normal" Bilstein premium package, which = within.6" of travel to the N74 mod, with 35's, and a small rub on the smooth inner fender in the rear is only telling you your suspension is almost maxed out, so dont think you need to limit travel just so tyres dont 'touch" because if your tyres dont rub, it means you can fit bigger ones.
So, basically what you're saying is you can't provide anything with better travel than what John has proposed with the N74L. On top of that, instead of adding a simple bumpstop extension to run the N74L, you add a 10 mm body lift to gain the same results? No thanks dude.
ats4x4dotcom said:My only questioning has been how .6" could make so much difference to johns feel of the truck, and I have explained why the N74 doesnt make sense, for .6", thats why for a little more work, yo can make more gains than .6" but he seemed to be pretending to not understand the math,
That was not all you were questioning. You repeatedly bashed the N74L as inferior. I can go back and get quotes if you need me to. I think John explained himself just fine.
Also please respond to this post:
Greg B said:I also want to add this. Some people are saying this is a .6" net gain. This is a blanket statement and is not true in all situations. Yes, it is true on a lifted 100 running 33's. You have to limit the upstroke by 2 inches with a bumpstop extension to gain the additional 2.6 inches of droop that the N74L's offer. This results in a net of .6 inches over the N101.
With a lifted 100 running 35's, this is not the case. In order to run the 35's, you have to use a bumpstop extension to keep the tires from rubbing in the fender wells. So, using an N101, you just lost two inches of up-travel. Which is a real trade-off for some people; loss of suspension travel to gain ground clearance from larger tires.
Now, go and add the N74L's like John did. You just got your full range of suspension travel back that you had before you started running 35's. As Christo said, as long as the spring doesn't unload you should feel pretty stable. If the spring stays loaded , how is that not a great improvement?
So far you haven't shown anything better.