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Not much outside but I continued on my tail gate storage. I slapped in the frame before the Bend OR trip and then I started the lid. This bed frame is getting a new life. I'll cover the lid with the aluminum sheet I still have, grab a piano hinge, and find some kind of latch. Then clean it up and paint it. Here's some poor night time pics.

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This Saturday is our club Christmas tree run. Still don't know how much snow will be up there but hopefully there'll be some laying around. I also have been working on the Dusy Ershim videos. First half is about done.
 
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I'm looking into doing a similar swap. Found a hydro-boost, after cooled 120hp engine and drivetrain with a freshly rebuilt VE pump. its got the Chevy TH400 (2wd), TQ and adapter all included.

Looking to swap this into a clean 60 body and frame.

I have read every page and have a question.

Is there anything now looking back you would have done different?

Any pointers that would have helped you along the way?

I'm looking at keeping the TH400 and running the Split case with a AA adapter.

Thanks a lot for any help,

Jeremy
 
Is there anything now looking back you would have done different?


Jeremy

First of all thanks for reading. For me that's kind of a hard question because I think it is a natural progression to change things as you go since with new capacity comes more opportunity. The question I have to turn back over to you is what do you plan on using your rig for? That helps give a better idea of what may be more important to you rather than me. I think it's good idea to start out with a plan but allow it some room to breath or at least go in with the expectation that you'll probably make some changes along the way because those will suit you best. There are things I want to change and that I have been changing. I think this change progression is especially true for rigs that serve several roles like I do with mine, DD, Wheel, Tow. For me hwy rpm and speed is important so I think running an overdrive is pretty important. If you're not going to see much hwy then that may not be as important. And of course the funding options dictate the kind of compromises that get made to get the rig back on the road. There is certainly not one right way to do this.

After driving this for a two years and subjecting it to different roles there are things I'd like to change or try differently. I cannot say these are the best options and I'm assuming there would be improvement with change.

Motor Mounts. I would like more dampening than I have but also want a system that is good for engine support in offroad situations. I don't have a definitive answer on that because I've only run one design so far and redoing engine mounts is not a quick/simple thing.

I also have plans to return my tranny to full auto operation using an aftermarket controller for tuning and the flexibility of manual control like I'm used to now but with the option to drive and forget. I did not find the Baumann controller back when I was making set up decisions and I've easily spend that amount on my manual control experiments. I think that electronic auto trannys offer neat options and flexibility with a good controller and I'm not really tapping into that... yet.

It's really hard to get this one right the first time especially putting this engine and tranny together in a modified vehicle that never came from the factory this way but a better matched torque converter. I like my tranny and it's strength but I think I could do better with the t. converter. That of course costs some decent coin to get a company to set one up so now that I've experienced the less expensive option of a stock diesel GM converter and a modified stall on a stock converter, I'd suggest spending the money on something better and having one build the first time. It may not be perfect but it would be better than what I've tried.

The 14bolt I have sitting in the garage will make it's way under the rear end, hopefully during this next year.

My turbo just isn't enough for me anymore so I'll be changing that out. That means coming up with a control function for the turbo I've choosen, building an exhaust manifold, and redoing some exhaust.

I'm considering a rim swap in the future for better tire options (due to hwy usage) and a lighter combination. If this were just a wheeler than quite a few of these little things wouldn't even be an issue but since I DD the thing, and the fact that it's in my nature to want to make things better, they bother me enough to drive change or at least the want for change since funding is now minimal.

I'd also run a selectable locker in a least the rear axle for a little smoother hwy control. The aussie is great and really isn't a problem, it's certainly hard to beat for the price and sure makes a difference offroad. Since I make so much torque so early I think it stays locked most of the time.

Things I'd do again: a 4bt swap! I love this engine even though it has a healthy decibel figure. A doubler! The perfect option to maintain hwy gearing and offroad options. With some tranny tuning I'd do an auto swap again too. A SOA and my chevy rears. Hydroassist hands down!! That saved my family's life. Overall I enjoy my rig and am fortunate to have a :princess: that supports my hobby.
 
Fun times:

We went to lunch offsite today and as I came back there was some hunk of metal on the ground in front of my parking spot. One of the guys got out and picked it up and asked what it was. It just so happened to be my tensioner for my belts. I popped the hood and found the bolt holding the tensioner to its bracket had sheared off and basically dropped the tensioner on the ground when we left. The belt was also shredded. Good thing the restaurant was very close so there wasn't enough time for the engine to warm up.

Luckily we have a shop with tools onsite so I pulled off the bracket and extracted the broken bolt, chased the threads, had a friend take me to get another bolt (it's metric 10mm-1.50) along with picking up another belt from a nearby napa (080537). I put it back on and tested the new belt with no issues. I'll be checking that bolt to make sure it stays tight.

My theory is that the bolt may have been bottoming on the threads since they weren't completely cut all the way through. The vibs from the tensioner doing what it's suppose to do wore a little material off the back side and with just enough slop it put focused stress on the bolt and wiggled it back and forth until it sheared. To combat this I may strengthen/lengthen the bracket so the tensioner has more surface to sit against. The bracket in stock form does not have a complete surface for the tensioner to sit against as there is no bottom section to the bracket. For now it should be fine for getting me home.
 
New member here.

I have always wanted a 60 series and was doing a little searching on the net for ideas when I purchase one, when I ran across this thread. I was awe struck at the amount of work you have put into your cruiser and liked the forum as well so I joined up. Now after reading all 76 pages I am even more sure that I want a 60.

What kind of mileage are you actually getting from the 4bt?

Thanks for the inspiration and excellent build thread
 
Welcome aboard and thanks to reading through my thread. A lot of good stuff here on Mud.

I average 18-20 mpg, was hoping for mid 20s but then again I'm a lifted brick and am running an auto, plus I'm still addicted to hearing my turbo spool. It's certainly better than I could get with the ol' 2F.
 
I'm considering a rim swap in the future for better tire options (due to hwy usage) and a lighter combination.

I'm running the H1's and Goodyears on my mini truck, and I have to say they (for me) drive great on the highway. One wouldn't balance, so I took the tire off the rim and rotated it 90*. Balanced fine after that.

My only complaint on the tire is its mud performance. That may be the fault of my lightweight truck, but they get STUCK in the mud way to easy and do well on the rocks...
 
update

I've been bored with doing maintenance stuff and I just wanted to build something. For Christmas I made my brother-in-law a support stand for his table saw and picked up and extra stick of 1" x 1/8th thick angle iron because I had planned on doing a single drawer after the Dusy experience and figured I could build mine out of metal. I did some research and saw a bunch of great ideas mostly from the expedition crowd here and other places and afterwards decided I might as well build a two drawer unit. I liked the lower profile ones I saw and started putting something together. I choose to make the drawers deep enough for an ammo can and keep the deck height around the top of the wheel wells. I also picked up three more sticks to play with but I only have 1 1/2 in it so far.

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I'm also still working on the tailgate storage. I buggered the first hinge because I put it on the opposite side that I wanted so I mangled it off and put on another one. I needed to test fit it and the box together to make sure the drawers will clear the tailgate when opening them (the drawers).

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The tailgate will open this way. I've got the aluminum piece that goes on top cut out already but I'm deciding about latches still and also need to put a couple more coats of paint on the frame before I bolt it back down.

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The basic layout of the drawers.

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It fits right in between the wells and is about 2" taller than the wells. I plan to make flaps for the sides so that the deck will be flat all the way across but allow me access to those areas for storage. I'm kind of stuck at this point until I get some slides for the drawers so I can work on drawer dimensions and slide attachment.

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I was able to cut out the aluminum pieces that will skin the top. I used the metal blade on the circular saw that I used when I cut up the stepvan, still cut fine. The aluminum pieces will be riveted to the metal frame. With the aluminum pieces in it I guess the weight to be around 40lbs. I figure it'll be 60-80lbs by the time I'm done.

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Winch is painted and ready to play with fitment on the front bumper.

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Looks very similar to my setup as well! I love having two drawers. I keep spare fluids, shafts and tools in one, food products and maps in the other. Initial design was the first mod I did to my truck and it has been my most useful mod I have done.
 
No indoor plumbing at the new place Mike?

Planning on a trap door on my tailgate storage with a toilet seat. I'm gonna bolt a TP holder somewhere in there. That'll give tailgate parties a whole new convenience.
 
Looks very similar to my setup as well! I love having two drawers. I keep spare fluids, shafts and tools in one, food products and maps in the other. Initial design was the first mod I did to my truck and it has been my most useful mod I have done.

I originally was only planning on one drawer so it would be half the size and wouldn't have gone all the way back and then I realized I could store other "stuff" in the other drawer. :doh:

It'll be a parts drawer and a camping drawer. Besides, a full deck looks better IMO.
 
Thanks Dusty, that is a temping offer. I could see linking the front but since I like to tow with my rig I'd probably stick to the leafs out back. The more I work with brokenparts on his pile the more tempting a 1ton is up front too. I could be comfortable with 40s :D

I'm still working on the vids from Dusy. After a new OS and new video editor coupled with a learning curve I'm finally making some progress. I've done a couple of passes on cutting out junk to make it flow better and am getting close to the transition stuff.
 
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