Ethanol Free Fuel - Opinions

What fuel do you use?

  • Ethanol Free

    Votes: 14 41.2%
  • Premium

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • Mid

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Regular

    Votes: 13 38.2%

  • Total voters
    34

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Got my SC'd 80 back up and running. Searched Fueling/Ethanol Free/ etc. and the most recent I found was 2015. With the new motor, just wondering what everyone is running. I put Premium in the whole way back from ACC to South Florida, but the station next to my house has Ethanol Free.
 
Ethanol free premium would be the best option if you have it.


Got my SC'd 80 back up and running. Searched Fueling/Ethanol Free/ etc. and the most recent I found was 2015. With the new motor, just wondering what everyone is running. I put Premium in the whole way back from ACC to South Florida, but the station next to my house has Ethanol Free.
 
If youre supercharged there is going to be more variables in there I know by me ethanol free is 89 octane. My truck seems to run better and i definitely get better gas mileage with ethanol free gas.
 
Ive asked the same question here before and the majority response was premium over ethanol free. The octane can prevent harmful pre detonation, the ethonal free just gunks it up less.

The combo is downright expensive and hard to find.
 
In Gillette Wyoming Ethanol free Premium has been avaliable over the last few years. Thats the drink of choice for all my stuff.
 
For all my vehicles I either buy ethanol free premium or I keep ethanol shield additive for when I buy 10 percent ethanol. When traveling out of town it can be very hard to find. I've seen the damaged heads at the machine shop from ethanol. It looks like a moly cotton candy and can stick the valves open.
 
I have experimented with ethanol free gas quite a bit. I track my mileage every tank. Have not noticed a difference in mileage. Also, the difference in energy content between the two is only 3% or so. 3% of 12 mpg is about 1/3 mpg. That would be really difficult to notice unless you compared the average of 100's of tanks of gas.

There are reasons to run ethanol free, but mileage is not one of them, especially since the cost difference between the two is greater than 3%.
 
Look for or call the local tree services and/or lawn maintenance companies. Chances are they know where the ethanol free service stations are if there are any. Here in PA there are 1 or 2 within 20 miles. Ethanol clogs the fuel filters on saws, trimmers and my old school John Deere tractor, running ethanol free fuel is the only option, but yes, it's significantly more expensive.
 
I would love to run the local e-free juice but the cost/benefit ratio is off considering i use chevron with the techron additive.Techron Dont underestimate the techron its killer stuff. For cleaning combustion chambers and fuel intake...
This gas is what is labeled as a "top tier " fuel and has the endorsment of toyota for its vehicles.Top_Tier_Detergent_Gasoline

I believe Texaco runs the stuff in its gas as well---
 
Ethanol is hygroscopic and attracts moisture. After a while the water will settle out on the bottom of the tank. Killed my Camaro letting it sit w/ ethanol fuel in it. Had to syphon the bad gas out. I don't care for corn fuel.
 
My 2 options. Same price. Went Ethonal free...

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In my area I can get ethanol free premium, so that's what I run. When on the road, I run premium with ethanol if I can't find efree premium. The cruiser goes through it so fast it doesn't really sit.
 
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada is a great resource for finding e0 petrol. There's even a big map of it too: Pure-Gas.org : Map of Ethanol-Free Gas Stations in the U.S. and Canada

Don't confuse ethanol content with octane. A supercharged 1FZ will require a higher octane fuel and you should always run that octane. (91? 93? I'm not sure what the good advice is here.) I'd personally run E0 if it was available and comparable in price. I've noticed that the NA 1FZ runs and idles more smoothly with E0.
 
You pay a lot for motor fuel! Ours is 10% ethanol, winter, 0% summer, summer motor fuel gets slightly better mileage. :meh: On the early rigs, it's significantly easier to pass the emissions test on winter fuel.
 
I used to be a farmer, so I was all-in for the ethanol. Now, I wish it would go away.

I owned one of the first Flex-Fuel vehicles available (a 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan) to accept E85.

I have done multiple tests with my 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee (5.2L V8) as well as my 98 DGC (3.3 V6).

In 2008/2009 I traveled a LOT (about 4000 miles/month) and traveled the same route over and over. I experimented with different fuels related to gas mileage, cost per mile, and butt-dyno HP.

Jeep:
I ran the experiment for a month. 2 weeks using mid-grade E10 and 2 weeks using Regular mid-grade non-ethanol. During this time, I put on about 4000 miles.

With E10:
Gas mileage averaged 13-15 MPG
HP Felt lower, acceleration not as responsive.
Break-even difference:
$0.13/gallon So, to get the same mileage, the E10 had to be at LEAST $0.13 per gallon LESS than non-E in order to BREAK EVEN based on gas mileage/cost per mile. Gas prices at the time were $2.85 - $3.15 per gallon.

With Non-E:
Gas mileage averaged 15-17 MPG

Van:
With E-85 (Smelled like vodka when standing next to it running)
Gas mileage averaged 12-14 MPG
Acceleration was very weak. (Kinda felt like a Land Cruiser going uphill...)
Break-even difference:
33% per gallon So, to get the same mileage, the E85 had to be at LEAST 33% per gallon LESS than non-E in order to BREAK EVEN based on gas mileage/cost per mile. The costs at E85 stations was all over the place, and very hard to find at the time, so this was the best reference based on mileage. If regular non-E gas was $3.00 per gallon, then I should pay any more than $2.00 per gallon for the E85, just to break even, and experience power loss the entire time.

With Non-E
Gas mileage averaged 18-21 MPG

I have a 59 Studebaker and it absolutely HATES anything with ethanol. It vapor locks, starts hard, and runs rough when using ANY ethanol product. We recently found a Speedway gas station in Indianapolis, IN that had 110 octane LEADED fuel. Man, the Stude was like Lightning McQueen for one tank! (but it was also $7.499 per gallon!!!) I will drive 5 miles extra to find a gas station with non-E for this car.

These days, if I have a choice between 87 octane non-E and 91 octane E10, I'll choose the 87 octane non-E, and pay $0.10-$0.13 per gallon MORE.

My Land Cruiser DEFINITELY likes the non-E more, but I typically run 89 Octane E10 because that is what is most readily available on my daily route.

The MTBE they add in the winter is another killer of gas mileage and HP in everything we drive here.
 
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