Does 2007 lx470. Require VGRS Steering gear? (1 Viewer)

[SgtZen]

Hello. I am back once again with a other cruiser problem.

so my power steering sometimes gets really tight on corners especially in parking lots with a lot of quick full strain corners.

I have noticed after this happens my a dripping from the driver side tie rod boot.

now I believe the rack is the culprit for all this.

my question is

2007 lx470. Does it require the vgrs steering gear system that’s like $1000

or can I use a Rack from and older model year that I can purchase for less from Toyota.

does it need to be the Lexus vgrs? Or can I order the less expensive still expensive toyota regular rack

I’m sorry if I’m not explaining my Thoughts properly here.

 

[suprarx7nut]

Vgrs is one of my favorite features, so I'd never try to get rid of it. Parking lots with a non-vgrs rack are laborious one your used to vgrs.

To your question: there are significant differences in mounting between racks on the 100. I don't think the early year rack will be compatible at all.

 

[OEMGUY0720]

Have you ran any sort of diagnostics thru OBD2 port to identify if its really the VGRS module? Because that’s actually the last point of failure for a steering symptom like yours..

 

[nukegoat]

Have you ran any sort of diagnostics thru OBD2 port to identify if its really the VGRS module? Because that’s actually the last point of failure for a steering symptom like yours..

i think he's saying it's the rack, but he doesn't want to pony up for the rack that was paired with the VGRS rigs

 

[saucebox]

It seems they're the same—VGRS gear is outside the rack itself. I don't have firsthand experience with this (went aftermarket, and yes it was a mistake).

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[Brentok]

There are a couple other threads discussing the toyota vs LX rack question and the current consensus is that toyota work fine on LX. The only difference as I recall was ratio on one was 18 vs ratio on the other was 19. There were a few that had confirmed toyota rack on LX was no problem for them. As stated above, VGRS is separate from rack.

 

[Six7One]

The factory calls for the VGRS. That's the only difference. Installation should be the same. Don't know if it will throw any codes. The LX has a VGRS warning light.

 

[Enrique Sonora]

I went to a independent toyota repair shop and they laughed at me about using older racks on a vgrs system. Claimed it was unsafe to have the warning light on. Secondly, I talk to Berge's toyota and they were great, but really emphasized the need for a vgrs rack instead.
WTF, appreciate some feedback from those that have experienced this expensive repair.

 

[Kabanstva]

Vgrs is one of my favorite features, so I'd never try to get rid of it. Parking lots with a non-vgrs rack are laborious one your used to vgrs.

To your question: there are significant differences in mounting between racks on the 100. I don't think the early year rack will be compatible at all.

I agree. I’m not saying VGRS was a selling point for me because I would’ve got my truck without it regardless but it was very surprising how nice of a feature it is. I’ve driven plenty of other trucks, Raptors, all the big HD trucks and they all feel like school buses in comparison.

 

[socalmtbiker]

I have a 05 lx 470 133k miles and recently done my steering rack with a Toyota rack. It was leaking. I’ve read the turning ratio is different but I can’t even tell.
Things I noticed:
-No codes
-Steering is tighter and Requires just a touch more effort.

The rack was around 7 shipped. The Lexus rack was 11-1200 shipped.

 

[ticoman]

Is there no such thing as a OE rack rebuild kit?.

 

[chaileyk5]

I think @MongooseGA put a Toyota rack in his LX a few months ago - post #138

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[MongooseGA]

I think @MongooseGA put a Toyota rack in his LX a few months ago - post #138

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Can confirm. I used the Toyota part #, not Lexus. Since my original rack was pretty well toasted by the time of replacement, I can't really accout for any difference in steering feel between the two. Since my tires kind of prevent me from throwing the wheels all the way to lock all the time, I can't account for the ratio change. I can say the rack works perfectly and required no special parts vs what the Lexus part would have. The VGRS system isn't actually a part of the steering rack so as long as the unit you're looking at is correct for the model year, it will work in a Lexus and VGRS will still be functional.

Basically, there's literally NO reason I can think of to order the pricier Lexus part than the Toyota part.