Dissent offroad modular rear bumper.

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I was an aircraft mechanic for 15 years In the Air Force (F-16's, A-10's and Predators). If you want to use safety wire where it really isn't needed, then you are crazy! In those 15 years, RARELY would I ever see the safety wire actually do its job of keeping a bolt from coming undone. Fasteners just stay in nowadays. If you are worried, then use Locktite. In fact, proper torque and Locktite will hold just as well as safety wire will. There was hardly any safety wire on the mostly carbon fiber Predator, but we used Locktite on every fastener.
 
I think the bolts benc has on there are just fine. I don't plan to drive the Hundy on a race track, out into space or off an airplane in a parachute. As everything else if you don't like the stock delivery you can change the bolts your self I can barely afford this bumper as it is and I appreciate benc thinking of economics. From my point of view benc if you can do it cheaper that seems like the best way to go, that is with out sacrificing integrity. Lock thread will do just fine.
 
I need to figure out if I'm going to go lift, front bumper, or this sweet rear bumper first.
 
I was an aircraft mechanic for 15 years In the Air Force (F-16's, A-10's and Predators). If you want to use safety wire where it really isn't needed, then you are crazy! In those 15 years, RARELY would I ever see the safety wire actually do its job of keeping a bolt from coming undone. Fasteners just stay in nowadays. If you are worried, then use Locktite. In fact, proper torque and Locktite will hold just as well as safety wire will. There was hardly any safety wire on the mostly carbon fiber Predator, but we used Locktite on every fastener.

Yes I'm crazy. I even used to tied bicycle spokes on my track bikes in the 70's and also stick a chunk of Black wood (Guayacan) in the steer tube of my race bike for "Just in case"

I trust it for most of my personal things, even if is just a redundant backup, it gives me peace of mind, relaxation, plus a last chance to check every one bolt..

For about 6 years work on "Dumped" vietnam Helicopters and early Blackhawks with the electronic prone nav failures (also level VI & VII suburbans, G-wagons, monteros, pajeros, etc) in Colombia with very little to no Locktite (we did have access to them, but most of the work was in field with very limited supplies sometimes but the small roll of wire was always among the tools/spares, just base on the redundancy of safety wire even if they have locking tabs, locktype (the main mechanics were trained in the US bases (or france/England/israel)

We improvise, we did Tons of crap and shoot experiments, lack of guidance (multi educated but not into aircraft procedures), massive A-arm cranes build with Guadua (thick bamboo) l was of pacal in action, to lift massive fuselage, etc the bolts/parts never came loose, let me tell you a rusty torque wrenches are pretty useless in the darien gap...

Also work for about 15 years mostly on dakar racers, mostly KTM 640, The only US base HPN 900RR and including for some 6 degrees of separation and random reasons some insane kamaz trucks, even the seat bases were safety wired, let me tell you the Russians love to drink as much as the trust safety wire...

Ps: Try to properly coat/clean a fastener in the middle of the windy desert if you need a solid image, then put yourself in the place of a broken down rider 50 miles away from his support truck with only three pounds in tools, what do you think is in his "Lunch box"..

Don't take me wrong Ben's products are as sound as the rock of gibraltar, but hey if you can make them simpler to service (Cresent wrench instead of torque wrench) and more redundant why not..

In the world

"Worst case scenario is far more commonplace than best case scenario.."

Silly use number 1,875.964
lock on grips on Bicycle grips are stupid, solid core, half the grip, bend bar and you are fubar...
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About 23 of 31 bikes we have used them.
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Even the "Mall Cruiser" get it plus a scott's steering damper at the very core..
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Another example "Fell from a truck, into another truck, into the hands of a nice gear head japanese engineer girlfriend, Honda HRC never fails.
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Rear caliper on Golem GS, a little to much grip but works great, Drop the string, pull the clip, new pads in less than 30 seconds).
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Bumper order/build list.
There are a couple guys that have already contacted me prior to starting the list so I will have to put them at the top of the list. Plus Manhattan will be doing a photo shoot with acc garage if I can get him the bumper soon enough[emoji4]

#1. Manhattan. *

#2. JBBunting. *

#3. stryder03. *

#4. Propane.

#5. ric3125. *

#6. Scott Makee. Out.

#7. EarthX.

#8. Desert100. Out.

#9. GRunner.

#10. Chford.

#11. UKaviator.

#12. Bushdoctor. *

#13. iHadmail. (DIY) *

#14. Joco.

#15. Jfrench. *

#16. RiverRat22 *

#17. Hoipolli

#18. Jcrider48. *

#19. Tomsryd. *

#20. Ramathorn15. *

#21. Hidesertwheelin. *

#22. Onealjc. *

#23. Droppn brass *

#24. savirc. *

#25. CruzerDave.

#26. MooseRDS

#27. Juanblzer

#28. DirtDawg

#29. Sgdisco2

#30. aaronrules

#31. 04sport

#32. Reznunt

#33. Therealdutch.

#34. Slaw ninja

#35. Bike n board cruiser.

#36. Screendoor. *

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I'm still waiting on emails with your contact info and build info.
Please include your forum name and number you are on the list. Thanks! If you don't see the * next to your name I have not received an email.


I'm really needing those emails ASAP! Please check you name on the list for a *. If you don't see a * next to you name I do not have your info! I'm going to be starting on the first 10 soon and if I don't have your info by the time I start building your spot will go to the next in line that I have received info from.
Thanks.
 
I'm really needing those emails ASAP! Please check you name on the list for a *. If you don't see a * next to you name I do not have your info! I'm going to be starting on the first 10 soon and if I don't have your info by the time I start building your spot will go to the next in line that I have received info from.
Thanks.
Benc, a little off topic here. I was told you might be venturing in to racks and sliders. Any truth to this and if so, where can I find info?
 
Benc, a little off topic here. I was told you might be venturing in to racks and sliders. Any truth to this and if so, where can I find info?
Yes, I will be at some point just not sure when.
The bumpers have been taking up any and all of my free time so I will likely not have time until I make the leap into this full time.
I have some ideas on sliders that I think will be pretty sweet and you can expect they will be totally different than anything currently on the market.
 
Yes, I will be at some point just not sure when.
The bumpers have been taking up any and all of my free time so I will likely not have time until I make the leap into this full time.
I have some ideas on sliders that I think will be pretty sweet and you can expect they will be totally different than anything currently on the market.
excited for it! time frame?
 
Benc, can I get on the list? I've also noticed you've done some installs. If I coordinated a road trip (Mohave road is calling me) with a bumper pick up do you offer that service?
 
after all the bumper/safety wire talk, i saw this on my morning walk today and thought i'd add to the discussion. does this count as safety 'wire'

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Benc, can I get on the list? I've also noticed you've done some installs. If I coordinated a road trip (Mohave road is calling me) with a bumper pick up do you offer that service?
I'll add you now,
Yes I have several installs lined up. I'm sure we could work something out when the time comes.
 
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Ok guys,
Last call to secure your spot on the list! If I don't here from you soon the order will be rearranged.
If you do not have a * by your name then I have not received your email.
Also check you voice mails, I have went down the list and called the first 20 that have given me their
info but only a couple have called back.

I picked up the first 20 yesterday,
 
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Also check you voice mails, I have went down the list and called the first 20 that have given my there info but only a couple have called back.

Hey Ben,

No voicemail received. #15 on the list. Let me know if you need my contact info.

Thanks
jfrench
 
Whew! That looks like a lot of work to me!

Couple questions Ben,

you mentioned 4-6 months for the first 20 or so bumpers. Is that still accurate?

Also, do you plan on creating any type of relocation bracket for the rear camera in the 03+ models? I would really hate to lose my back-up camera.

Thanks!
 
Whew! That looks like a lot of work to me!

Couple questions Ben,

you mentioned 4-6 months for the first 20 or so bumpers. Is that still accurate?

Also, do you plan on creating any type of relocation bracket for the rear camera in the 03+ models? I would really hate to lose my back-up camera.

Thanks!
That should be a high est,
I'm hoping be done much sooner but it all depend on my day job.
I am working on jumping into this full time so when that happens the lead times will be cut in half.

I do plan on coming up with something for the backup camera but it may be a while befor that gets done. I believe slee has a relocation kit the should be compatible.
 
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Finishing up and mouting 1 more before full production. Will be getting pics and possible video of the install. This one will be coated white with black caps and swing arms to match the front.

Don't mind the messed up side moulding, that was caused by a poor fitting aftermarket bumper the cust had mounted before this one.
 

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