Death of a 3UR

[liv2bike]

Count me in. Rather confident I’m the newest member of this elite club. If I’m being completely honest and my engine is toast, there will be a non-running 200 for sale soon. I say this now not knowing full extent of the internal damage. But if it’s done, I’m struggling to justify dumping $10-$15k into a used engine plus all of the unknowns as experienced in this situation. Haven’t fully realized full extent of my situation but it’s not looking very good.

 

[sleepycruiser]

Count me in. Rather confident I’m the newest member of this elite club. If I’m being completely honest and my engine is toast, there will be a non-running 200 for sale soon. I say this now not knowing full extent of the internal damage. But if it’s done, I’m struggling to justify dumping $10-$15k into a used engine plus all of the unknowns as experienced in this situation. Haven’t fully realized full extent of my situation but it’s not looking very good.

What is going on? Symptoms? Issues?

 

[liv2bike]

Here’s how it started…

P0335…to a bent valve (update...and it's not good…but it’s getting better...She's ALIVE!)

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2008 with 165k miles. Meticulous maintenance. Never a hiccup.

Plug in C7 was smacked. Planned borescope Monday. Drop oil pan. Go from there.

Teton Toyota has been great so far. They’re my only option here in Idaho Falls. However they’ve never seen this (I get that). Super rare. I don’t think they’ve ever engine swapped a 200.

Engaging Overland Cruisers in Bozeman on Monday once I have more data points for Stephen.

 

[linuxgod]

Here’s how it started…

P0335…to a bent valve (update...and it's not good…but it’s getting better...She's ALIVE!)

forum.ih8mud.com

2008 with 165k miles. Meticulous maintenance. Never a hiccup.

Plug in C7 was smacked. Planned borescope Monday. Drop oil pan. Go from there.

Teton Toyota has been great so far. They’re my only option here in Idaho Falls. However they’ve never seen this (I get that). Super rare. I don’t think they’ve ever engine swapped a 200.

Engaging Overland Cruisers in Bozeman on Monday once I have more data points for Stephen.

You might talk to @cruiseroutfit about options. I'm pretty sure well experienced in 3UR rebuilds at this point. If I had to do a full rebuild I'd seriously consider shipping my truck out to them, and I suspect shipping from IA to UT would be a lot cheaper than IL to UT...

 

[liv2bike]

You might talk to @cruiseroutfit about options. I'm pretty sure well experienced in 3UR rebuilds at this point. If I had to do a full rebuild I'd seriously consider shipping my truck out to them, and I suspect shipping from IA to UT would be a lot cheaper than IL to UT...

Yes. I’m planning on this. I’m in Idaho Falls. SLC is only around 3 hrs south.

 

[NE Snowman]

More and more head gaskets, mostly long intervals on coolant changes.

 

[elkeye]

I can't remember if it was @codyaustin5 or @indycole, but one of them had to do a full replacement a few years ago and may have some perspective to share. They both happen to be fantastic gents.

It was indycole:


Bighorn Toyota in Glenwood Springs, CO installed the motor in 2019.

Builds - indycole's 2016 200 Series Build and Retrospective - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/indycoles-2016-200-series-build-and-retrospective.962762/page-35

"the rough cost of a 40,000 mile motor, full install, and ancillary repairs for this situation is around $15k"

 

[unclemat]

Sorry to bring up an old thread. But has anyone done the springs as PM? If so, what was the rough cost?

Not sure if anyone did. But if I were do to fix leaky cam towers, then I think swapping the springs would be an obvious "while there" work. The springs are not that expensive, plus this is an opportunity to refresh all seals.

At ~160k miles my motor purrs nicely, no issues now or before, except a tiny timing cover leak. Too small to even notice between oil changes, and especially since I switched to a 0w40 at ~110k (on 0w30 from 50k till then, and probably 0w20 until 50k during the previous ownership).

The OP's failure on a 2014 seems very rare. Most of the reported failures seem to be in 2008-2011 model year range. But if I have to do cam towers, then I will do the springs just because (mine is a 2015).