Custom 9.5 front build question

[Tacocrazy]

Is there a suggested/better choice 9.5 3rd member to use for a custom front build?
It’s gonna get an ARB so the original carrier will be gone anyway...I’ll be running a FF80 in the rear. Anything to avoid?
Thanks in advance.

 

[baldilocks]

Better than what?

 

[Tacocrazy]

Better than what?

There were at least 2, maybe 3 different 9.5 diff housings over the years...I know the 80 rear 3rd is a different casting than the 60 front and/or rear for instance. Just curiiis if there is a preferred/stronger/better 9.5 to use for my Diamond housing.

 

[baldilocks]

I think the 100 series 9.5 is deemed more desirable than the 80. Runs a 32 spline shaft and the ring gear teeth have more surface area due to where the bolt holes are. Or something like that. It’s worth looking into.

 

[White Stripe]

100 or 200 series would be the strongest. You would have to change the side gears to 30 spline or have custom 32 spline shafts made.

 

[nukegoat]

Why tho? You could just go to a ford 9 at this point. It's not like it's really 'keepin it toyota' with custom shafts, gears, carriers, housing, etc'

Or dana

 

[Railwelder93]

GM 60

 

[Railwelder93]

Or,

Toyota 9.5" Land Cruiser Axle Housing

Check out the deal on Toyota 9.5" Land Cruiser Axle Housing at RuffStuff Specialties

www.ruffstuffspecialties.com

They can make it a front

 

[baldilocks]

GM 60

Ford high pinion with king pins instead of ball joints.

 

[wap13]

Ford high pinion with king pins instead of ball joints.

Superduty 60 > than GM or kingpin ford

 

[Railwelder93]

Ford high pinion with king pins instead of ball joints.

But most fords are driver side drop right? Or do I have them mixed up?

 

[baldilocks]

But most fords are driver side drop right? Or do I have them mixed up?

Yes but that can be remedied with money.

 

[baldilocks]

Are high 9’s still available???

 

[Railwelder93]

Yes but that can be remedied with money.

Just wasn’t sure how “custom” we were going for here lol

 

[jcardona1]

Yes but that can be remedied with money.

Just ask @NCTrey133 who's building a 610 for his front axle

 

[gofast]

I think I read somewhere that Nissan patrol members may work.

 

[Tacocrazy]

I’ve studied all those options and I have my reasons for this build, and it’s not because it’s all Toyota.

9” ford pinion centerline is very low, nearly 2” lower than the 9.5’s pseudo mid pinion design, not a good front option in my opinion...
-True Hi 9’s aren’t all that, do the research there are lots of failures in setups where there shouldn’t be...I have plenty of friends all the way to Ultra 4 for real feedback.
-Currie’s built high pinion 9” 3rd will run $3500 by itself, this is a trail rig not an race truck..lol
-Stock width 60 is too wide, this is a 1st gen Taco not a Cruiser. Sure it can be narrowed but...I’ll be lighter and plenty strong for less $$
-05-up SD axles cannot be adapted to 6x5.5 w/o wheel adapters and that’s not happening. The late 60 wheel bearing is larger than the 5.5” across the bolt circle, hell the lug studs would be in the bearing..lol
-I will be running an 80 rear so 6-lug...
-I’ll be running 37’s and 60’s are s*** w/o something near the 40” range..

That’s all for now..LOL

 

[Tacocrazy]

I think I read somewhere that Nissan patrol members may work.

True, and Diamond builds housings for them it’s just supply here in the US is nearly non-existent. I talked to a company out west that builds Nissan..even he suggested I stray away due to availibility, not to mention Nissan’s odd gear ratios can be a challenge to match.

 

[wap13]

But most fords are driver side drop right? Or do I have them mixed up?

To my knowledge all ford 60s with open knuckels are driver drop.

If he's making a front end out of a rear end anyway swapping the diff from DS to PS should be within the same realm of work to make a custom front

 

[wap13]

I’ve studied all those options and I have my reasons for this build, and it’s not because it’s all Toyota.

9” ford pinion centerline is very low, nearly 2” lower than the 9.5’s pseudo mid pinion design, not a good front option in my opinion...
-True Hi 9’s aren’t all that, do the research there are lots of failures in setups where there shouldn’t be...I have plenty of friends all the way to Ultra 4 for real feedback.
-Currie’s built high pinion 9” 3rd will run $3500 by itself, this is a trail rig not an race truck..lol
-Stock width 60 is too wide, this is a 1st gen Taco not a Cruiser. Sure it can be narrowed but...I’ll be lighter and plenty strong for less $$
-05-up SD axles cannot be adapted to 6x5.5 w/o wheel adapters and that’s not happening. The late 60 wheel bearing is larger than the 5.5” across the bolt circle, hell the lug studs would be in the bearing..lol
-I will be running an 80 rear so 6-lug...
-I’ll be running 37’s and 60’s are s*** w/o something near the 40” range..

That’s all for now..LOL

Looks like you are on the right track.

However, does Branik not offer custom unit bearings in that pattern?

Also what a bout a 99-04 60, could you get the pattern to work with one of those?

I'm not asking to be argumentative or talk you into a different direction, but to learn myself.