Crater Lake, Oregon vacation property build thread - BASE CAMP ⛺️

[Hojack]

Getting materials to the pump houses was a chore in the deep snow.

After a break in the weather only way to get insulation from Travis lot to mine was to push it. Thankfully I brought snowshoes and had alot of energy to push it the 1,000 feet between lots.

 

[Hojack]

Evening was coming quick as temp started dropping quick. Time to get a fire started.

Such a great night around the fire. The sky was crystal clear. Crescent moon and brilliant stars over the snowy cold landscape.

 

[ntsqd]

Nice camp chair!

Those roofs look like they're working as desired.

Not that it's a likely option in that area, but anything built for human occupation here in the urban part of the Lower Left Coast now has to have a fire sprinkler system in it. Even single family dwellings. I'll assume this is true for some other regions, but I have no knowledge of that.

I've always worried more about some of the, ah, 'fragrances' found in a shop permeating the home if it were built above the shop. Like the old fashioned, real carburetor cleaner that you can't get any more. Or old, used gear lube. Or Epoxy paints and resins. Or......

A friend and I were discussing his place in WY where it can get quite cold. One of the issues his property has is that there is no where to move the snow berm that the plows push up across his driveway. He is considering a heated driveway to offset this. I realized that "heated" could be relative. With a deep enough sump I would expect that water in that sump would be well above freezing temperature without having to actually heat it. Merely pumping it thru his driveway could slowly melt any snow or ice on the driveway. There's lots to consider with this plan, but it got me to wondering about if you could passively heat a home or shop this way. I've no idea how deep you'd need to go, or what the water volume would need to be for the system to be effective.

 

[Hojack]

Walter is the greatest neighbor. He chit chatted yesterday and said he’d be down early in morning to snow blow a path into Travis’s lot. Cooked breakfast and got nice fire going while he cleared a road.

Breakfast of champions on cardboard plates. Travis using a shim as a utensil.

Took trip to KFalls to get some more materials. Passing Oregon’s largest lake, Upper Klamath Lake, to see it completely froze over.

 

[kirvesmies]

@Hojack , a page or two back you mentioned not sure of size, you know there is only one set of measurements right? huge x large x big no. seriously, build as large as you can. cuz with a piece of dirt like you've got there, i personally wouldn't be long saying, "screw this $h!t! we're moving to the hide out" it's great to see you enjoying it n even better with family n good friends

 

[kirvesmies]

oh, forgot to ask, did you check out the rako valkea? i'm thinking you got prime logs for that

 

[kirvesmies]

Nice camp chair!

Those roofs look like they're working as desired.

Not that it's a likely option in that area, but anything built for human occupation here in the urban part of the Lower Left Coast now has to have a fire sprinkler system in it. Even single family dwellings. I'll assume this is true for some other regions, but I have no knowledge of that.

I've always worried more about some of the, ah, 'fragrances' found in a shop permeating the home if it were built above the shop. Like the old fashioned, real carburetor cleaner that you can't get any more. Or old, used gear lube. Or Epoxy paints and resins. Or......

A friend and I were discussing his place in WY where it can get quite cold. One of the issues his property has is that there is no where to move the snow berm that the plows push up across his driveway. He is considering a heated driveway to offset this. I realized that "heated" could be relative. With a deep enough sump I would expect that water in that sump would be well above freezing temperature without having to actually heat it. Merely pumping it thru his driveway could slowly melt any snow or ice on the driveway. There's lots to consider with this plan, but it got me to wondering about if you could passively heat a home or shop this way. I've no idea how deep you'd need to go, or what the water volume would need to be for the system to be effective.

@ntsqd , the "fragrances", that's just ambiance to gearheads
re: heat pump for driveway. the theory is sound. here's the but, using the freeze/thaw i've lived with all my life, going to say that at the effective melt depth in the driveway mother nature's cold winter heart would freeze it up in very little time. now, if you were to build two separate systems, it should work. ground water heat exchanger warming up anti-freezed driveway melt system. oh wait, that's right up @Hojack 's alley......water n pipes
a slight detour but sorta related, my old boy some 40 yrs ago, built a 3200 square foot log home in central florida. florida light n power sent 3 different inspectors out as the house energy consumption was that of an average 800 sqr ft dwelling. pop's secret......heating/cooling is done by mother nature, naturally pressurized spring water through radiant baseboard heaters. the spring water temp was a consistent 68-69f year round.

 

[ntsqd]

We figured that the system would need to be moving water at roughly any ambient temp below 36°-40° and that if the pump failed that some valves would need to open a drain the plumbing under the driveway. Maybe coolant would be a better idea there and maybe not.

I recall a house built in NM and featured in Mother Earth News almost 40 years ago that used large rocks in more or less a deep basement to help control the home's temperature. The "HVAC" system pumped air thru that volume to regulate the home's temp. Figured the same could be done with water so long as the top of the water was lower than the max freezing depth of the ground. I'm sure that there's some ideal ratio of reservoir capacity to driveway plumbing volume that would keep the driveway, in the worst possible cold, from being able to freeze the reservoir.

 

[Big Ed]

oh, forgot to ask, did you check out the rako valkea? i'm thinking you got prime logs for that

 

[PAToyota]

A friend and I were discussing his place in WY where it can get quite cold. One of the issues his property has is that there is no where to move the snow berm that the plows push up across his driveway. He is considering a heated driveway to offset this. I realized that "heated" could be relative. With a deep enough sump I would expect that water in that sump would be well above freezing temperature without having to actually heat it. Merely pumping it thru his driveway could slowly melt any snow or ice on the driveway. There's lots to consider with this plan, but it got me to wondering about if you could passively heat a home or shop this way. I've no idea how deep you'd need to go, or what the water volume would need to be for the system to be effective.

I've been involved in a couple refrigerated/freezer warehouse projects where the "waste heat" from the refrigeration system was used for snow melt systems on the surrounding sidewalks and traffic areas.

 

[Hojack]

Ice cold last night 5F under clear skies. Finished the insulation just barely had enough of the scraps for the last stud bay. Finished laying the waterproof flooring and setting the toilet. Nice blazing fire.

Went to Diamond Lake this morning for breakfast. Diamond Lake was completely froze over.

Back at my lot just shot some pics.

 

[kirvesmies]

Ice cold last night 5F under clear skies. Finished the insulation just barely had enough of the scraps for the last stud bay. Finished laying the waterproof flooring and setting the toilet. Nice blazing fire.
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Went to Diamond Lake this morning for breakfast. Diamond Lake was completely froze over.
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Back at my lot just shot some pics.
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"$h!tter'$ full!!!" yeah, i just had to

 

[Big Ed]

Maybe this will come in handy.

Log Weight Calculator at WOODWEB

Log Weight Calculator at WOODWEB

www.woodweb.com

 

[Intjdan]

Decades ago used to stay at my GM ranch and it brought back good memories. It sad though, she passed away at 100 years old. I miss that part of my life cant bring back the 70s.

 

[Hojack]

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Just found out about this attraction, I’ll just leave this here.

 

[Big Ed]

Update?

 

[Hojack]

Picked up a 12’ Klamath boat with a 8HP Mercury trolling motor for fishing. Need more fun this year.

Ordered Lifeproof’s golden larch oak vinyl wood flooring for my 2 structures on the property. Should be ready for pickup first week in March. Going to install Owens Corning 3/4” dense Foamular foam board between the concrete and flooring for a thermal barrier. Plan another trip in April.

 

[Stinkerbelle]

Just found this thread and I'm enjoying it. Nice property. You've gotten a lot accomplished in a short amount of time. We might be 'neighbors '.....I have 5 acres off of highway 58 up by Crescent Lake. Love the area.....

 

[Big Ed]

Need more fun this year.

If you must!

We’re looking forward to progress though...

 

[Hojack]

If you must!

We’re looking forward to progress though...

I’ll try not to let you down