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BILT4ME said:
Glad to hear you and all your occupants OK Booger!

Seeing the A-pillars back like that is usually a really bad thing. Did you flip it over, get it running and drive it home?

That's the reason for drawers and securing all your crap in the back of the truck. If you see his tools and other stuff scattered all over, those thing become projectiles and cause injuries as well! I have no idea if you had drawers or not, but that make me want to install some as well as a cage behind the second row. And maybe a roll bar at the B pillar.

I had a friend that was able to walk away from a very bad flip and taking a tree across the roof from the hood ornament to the tailgate. It pushed the bucket seats out the doors and that's the only thing that saved their lives because the roof was flat to the bottom of the windows. I am a believer in ROPS. I built my first 4x4 with a brush guard and double tube pipe roll bar attached to the frame on mine to prevent such a problem. Fortunately, I never had to use it.

Hope all is well and you all recover from the stiffness and soreness of being thrashed around inside there.
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Yeah, no drawers. tools, parts, bottle jack, speaker box, etc scattered everywhere. My son got hit pretty hard by something that was loose in there, possibly a drill, grinder or ?

Definitely not safe to use the back like one would a pickup bed! I always did with the exception of dirty or greasy parts. Very dumb now that this occurred. Lots of you guys seem to have those pet barriers back there. I imagine that could help in all but the worst scenarios.
 
Booger weldz said:
We went rafting and parked the cruiser at the portal out. When we were done we threw the boat on the roof and my companions carelessly strapped it down...
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Your companions are absolute fawking idiots. No other way around that. Ugh.

Booger weldz said:
I didn't really pay attention to the integrity of that unfortunately
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Fool me once shame on...well...I guess you only get the once. Sucks.

Booger weldz said:
and we hit the super curvy 45mph road(to go 5 miles upstream to the car we departed from). A bit up the twisty riverside road, in congested weekend river tourist traffic, the raft started sliding off the roof... In a panic I sorta grabbed it through the drivers window but long story short it got us off pavement and I let the passenger take the wheel for a costly second...
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You need better companions/friends/passengers. :meh:

Booger weldz said:
We got quite a bit of air off (hence the caved in roof)an embankment and actually cleared an on coming car. This sort of occurred in a large turn and I'm pictured in the oncoming lane(upsidedown).
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Freaking crazy!

Booger weldz said:
I realize these things get sh!!t gas mileage, but honestly, if you can grab one for $4-5000 (or easily less) and make it you kids first car there's a legitimate arguement for safety and well being if so unfortunate. We woulda died in a lesser vehicle...
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So let me be the outlier here only because I would constantly say the same thing to everyone that would listen.

The accident likely would not have occurred in the truck didn't have such a high center of gravity. Physics are against us. Add to that we are driving arguably the best trucks in the world and we tend to think we are invincible in the truck until rudely proving otherwise. Add to that now after seeing the A-Pillar crushed like that and I am seriously shocked you and your bonehead passenger weren't seriously injured or worse. Is the fact you were left unscathed to do with the design or was it because physics were on your side again and you happened to not have your heads firmly planted near the windshields at the time.

Don't get me wrong. I love my truck and I feel safe as fawk but I also need to be a realist and be pragmatic about my driving and what I do. You don't get to hear from the people who lost their lives in their Land Cruiser about how much they love the safety and security of it. Food for thought.
 
Booger weldz said:
Yeah, no drawers. tools, parts, bottle jack, speaker box, etc scattered everywhere. My son got hit pretty hard by something that was loose in there, possibly a drill, grinder or ?

Definitely not safe to use the back like one would a pickup bed! I always did with the exception of dirty or greasy parts. Very dumb now that this occurred. Lots of you guys seem to have those pet barriers back there. I imagine that could help in all but the worst scenarios.
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The cargo barrier I got from Speski OffRoad @Corbet has definitely prevented a nasty headache at least twice now. Once I thought for SURE I was going to end up with a broken rear window and shocked I didn't.
 
NLXTACY said:
after seeing the A-Pillar crushed like that and I am seriously shocked you and your bonehead passenger weren't seriously injured or worse. Is the fact you were left unscathed to do with the design or was it because physics were on your side again and you happened to not have your heads firmly planted near the windshields at the time.
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I agree. 80s in rollovers scare the s*** outta me. Every single one I have seen leaves the roof totally crushed. It's like if the pillars are made out of toothpicks. FJ60s look even worse. I'm always amazed how people seem to walk away just fine. I think an interior rollcage should be in the works.

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Having been in my 94' 80 when my sister rolled it I now keep that event at the front of my mind when Im driving my 80. Keeps me on my toes.
 
Booger weldz said:
We went rafting ...
threw the boat on the roof...
companions carelessly strapped it down...
I didn't really pay attention to the integrity...
we hit the super curvy 45mph road...
in congested weekend river tourist traffic...
Raft started sliding off the roof...
In a panic I sorta grabbed it through the drivers window...
and I let the passenger take the wheel...
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Yup, that's how you do a barrel roll in a lifted truck. Glad everyone is okay.
 
OK, Everyone stop building bumpers and cupholders!

BUILD INTERIOR ROLLOVER PROTECTIVE STRUCTURES! ATTACHED TO FRAME! MAKE AS A KIT FOR BOLT-IN!!!!
 
WTF happened here?!

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Looks like a VERY fast moving train perfectly centered on the DS. You know there is a $HIT-TON of force when it leaves the axles behind at the hit. Kinda like knocking a guy out of his shoes!

Holy Crap! I do hope no one was in it when it got hit.
 
jcardona1 said:
I agree. 80s in rollovers scare the **** outta me. Every single one I have seen leaves the roof totally crushed. It's like if the pillars are made out of toothpicks. FJ60s look even worse. I'm always amazed how people seem to walk away just fine. I think an interior rollcage should be in the works.

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Geez!!! Now I don't want to drive my truck home from work...or ever again!! :/
 
Roll cages can be worse than crushed A-pillars unless you have the other gear to avoid Crash #2 (you and the car) such as LOTS of high density padding, helmets, 4/5 point harnesses, etc. Remember how tiny the cockpit is now, bring in some tubing spaced poorly (as best a fabricator can) around the non-ergonomic panels, check your claustrophobia at the door and see what you have left to work with. Now all that's assuming you still want to reach controls and glove boxes, have room for your legs and knees, etc. You'll be protected in a boogerwelds high adventure wreck but crippled and maimed in everything else.
 
Padding is certainly a must in rollcages, but a well thought out and placed cage should not get into your head space. I say this thinking about my 6 foot tall self if you are taller then the risk certainly increases.

I've been thinking about building a double center rib design that will allow the front A pillars to deform slightly allowing for some impact energy absorption while maintaining the center integrity of the roof. Still playing with the design in my head.
 
They likely would have had more serious injuries with a roll cage. All of the force absorbed by the crushing of those a pillars would have been transmitted to the people's bodies inside and propelled the tools/parts with more force.
 
Also, using a ROPS is not good if you are not wearing a seat belt. You also need to keep your limbs inside the ROPS, so a safety net is in order.

We'll all have ROPS and safety nets on our DS windows so we can look like Iron Man Ivan Stewart when we go to the Mall! May as well wear a helmet and HANS device as well!

Do you think the other drivers on the road would be nervous seeing someone in a lifted truck, wearing a helmet and full gear, with lights, bumpers, rack, jerry cans and spares coming up behind them? Maybe start thinking Mad Max?

I do have a relative that lost most of his left arm due to a rollover on a mountain road in a Heep. The truck rolled down a mountain and he got his arm trapped under it and cut off as it went over. Another person held his arm in a tourniquet for about 4 hours in order to keep him from bleeding to death while the rescue teams got there. (30+ years ago)
 
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