Belt Befuddlement

[baxter650]

Is it just me or does your 80 eat belts?
I seem to have to put belts on almost every oil change.
Yes i change them as a set.
No i don't over tighten them.
Pullies are in line and have been checked for nicks.
Water pump and alternator spin with normal drag.
Air conditioning belt is still the same one that was on when we bought the truck 4 years ago.
I change them out in 15 min but it is a pain in the ass.
Are the factory belts any better?

 

[cruiserdan]

Where do you get your replacement belts?

 

[landtank]

have you checked your idler pulley and made sure it's turning freely?

 

[DaveyBoy]

Is it just me or does your 80 eat belts?
Are the factory belts any better?

You might have just answered your own question
OEM is best!!

 

[spartan]

What size belts?

 

[ace10]

Is it just me or does your 80 eat belts?

It's you.

Air conditioning belt is still the same one that was on when we bought the truck 4 years ago.

Perhaps because it came in a toyota box.

Are the factory belts any better?

Couldn't be any worse.


$0.02

 

[LX_TREME]

Is it just me or does your 80 eat belts?

I think your 80

 

[-Spike-]

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=102970&highlight=matched+set

You should get 30,000 miles or more from a set of belts.

-Spike

 

[wileetoyote]

bought my '96 with ~45K miles and ASSUMED the dealership replaced all the belts and fluids... I recently replaced the water pump cause it started squeeling like a pig and when I removed the belts, they were literally crumbling in my hands. Belts weren't just cracked but had chunks falling off as I wiggled it around.

So my question is would that have happened here in AZ after about 55K miles or maybe they were the original belts and the dealership was just trying to save a few bucks and never replaced them?

Whats your thoughts? Also, would the dealership have replaced all the fluids as well? still on subject so i don't believe this is a full on thread hijack

btw - it crossed my mind that the waterpump squeel could have been the belts but since I was at 100k and already purchased the WP, I changed it as a PM anyhow.

WET

 

[firetruck41]

bought my '96 with ~45K miles and ASSUMED the dealership replaced all the belts and fluids... I recently replaced the water pump cause it started squeeling like a pig and when I removed the belts, they were literally crumbling in my hands. Belts weren't just cracked but had chunks falling off as I wiggled it around.

So my question is would that have happened here in AZ after about 55K miles or maybe they were the original belts and the dealership was just trying to save a few bucks and never replaced them?

Whats your thoughts? Also, would the dealership have replaced all the fluids as well? still on subject so i don't believe this is a full on thread hijack

btw - it crossed my mind that the waterpump squeel could have been the belts but since I was at 100k and already purchased the WP, I changed it as a PM anyhow.

WET

I would not assume the dealer did anything other than a wash and detail. They almost definitely did not change the belts/all fluids, *maybe an oil change*. Unless there is a reciept for work done, assume it was not done.
My 200k waterpump seemed to work fine on my 93 FZJ80.

 

[spartan]

I go back to what size belts? If they are to small they will stretch and destruct.

 

[ace10]

What size belts?

I go back to what size belts? If they are to small they will stretch and destruct.

The exact size of the ones that are in the box that cdan sends to you.

 

[baxter650]

All 3 belts are Goodyear Gatorbacks, air con. belt is fine.
I think last ones were Gates,i think they also were of the cogged type.
Idler turns free and true, no wobble.
Changed waterpump/alt belts last oil change, changed oil yesterday and belts are coming apart again.
The only thing i can think of is the cogged belts don't like being wrapped around the idler on the back side of the belt.
Are the factory belts cogged or are they just a plain old Vbelt with none of the fancy pants s***?

 

[cruiserdan]

All 3 belts are Goodyear Gatorbacks

That could be your problem. Spend 20 bucks and try some Factory belts.

 

[baxter650]

Thats the only thing i can think that it would be, $20 in the U.S., up here the dealerships just rape ya and they don't stock anything for the 80 but thats what i'll do i guess.
Thanks Dan
Vince

 

[landtank]

up here the dealerships just rape ya

What do you call those guys that sell you belts that only last an oil change interval, sweethearts?

 

[-Spike-]

The factory belts are not cogged.

-Spike

 

[baxter650]

What do you call those guys that sell you belts that only last an oil change interval, sweethearts?

I've never had to buy belts because they have failed before. Have worn them down and replaced them because i didn't want to push my luck.
Until now i could not see the point in paying what the dealer may want for a simple belt.
I will post up what they want just for s***s.

 

[Beowulf]

All 3 belts are Goodyear Gatorbacks, air con. belt is fine.
I think last ones were Gates,i think they also were of the cogged type.

Maybe we should have another section added to the FAQ that informs members of those things we have discovered about the 80-Series; some easier than others.

* Always use Toyota drive belts. The aftermarket belts do not work well, especially the cogged belts which will create a loud whine.

* The wiring harness next to the EGR valve on the 1FZ-FE engine must be wrapped well with heat tape. This harness experiences high heat and the wires will melt and crack and cause you untold problems.

* Always use Toyota inner axle seals. (Reasons here...)

* You will get better brake life if you use the 100 Series front pads. (93-97.)

* Extend your axle diff breathers. The factory diff breaters are inadequate unless you never intend to be in water over 8" deep. The front diff breather design will create a vacuum, enabling knuckle grease & water to get sucked past the seals into the diff.

* There is a small coolant hose on the 1FZ-FE that is difficult to replace and is known in the Cruiser world as the PHH. This hose will fail at the worst possible time and has been the cause of several HG and engine failures. Inspect this hose often and replace it when needed.

* (Probably a dozen more ... )

-B-

 

[cruiserdan]

Until now i could not see the point in paying what the dealer may want for a simple belt.

It's less than 20 bucks for all three belts.