African expedition FJ/HJ60 Build for Jesus

[toymaniac]

Can anyone help us out with part numbers? We are looking for the following:

12v non-superglow glow plug timer
12v glow plug relay
12v EDIC motor

Thanks everyone for your help.

Leni

 

[toymaniac]

If you don't mind, let me know the shipping to Liberia. It looks like I might be going to Sierra Leone right next door with my BJ60.

Want to do a quick body swap and snorkel install on my truck?

We are not handling the shipping logistics, just bringing it to port. It is shipping out of NC, and Ben made all the arrangements through his mission. It is shipping in a container with a dentist chair.

Leni

 

[cruiser_guy]

Can anyone help us out with part numbers? We are looking for the following:

12v non-superglow glow plug timer
12v glow plug relay
12v EDIC motor

Thanks everyone for your help.

Leni

12v EDIC 28571‑56140 I hope you're sitting down when you find out the price.

The glow plug relay can be any heavy duty relay with a 12v coil.

I'd need to pull the FJ55 apart to get a number on a 12v non-Superglow glow plug timer. It has one but it's up behind the glove box (out of sight out of mind).

I have a relay that might be the one you need but I can't read the number or the name on it. Do you have a non-functioning one there? I think this is a Fuel Control/Glow Relay but that's guessing by reading the first and last word and guessing the rest based on length of word. Someone has had some overspray on the case. It is a 12v relay because I can read that much.

 

[Slowtoy]

Looks amazing guys, great job!

 

[chappysfj40]

is there gonna be a thread tracking this truck through out the trip and around its new home?

 

[preacherman]

As its been said back on page 6, Locks keep honest people honest. They live in a "compound" with razor wire and security gaurds so that "shouldn't" be a problem. During the day, you pay a local 50 cents to watch your truck for you while you go do something in a building or whatever and they generally take pride in their work.

This is part of the reason we painted white. NGO vehicles don't generally get messed with. If its white with an SIM label on the sides, its less deserible to locals cause they know its there to help.

Now, saying all this, there is still a chance; so we just pray hard =)

.

Have them look into something called a "reverse lock" it is a lock that is installed near the gear shifter and goes around the gear shift (when its in reverse). When locked it is almost impossible to move the truck out of reverse. They are very common in Africa.

http://www.onelus.com.tw/upload/K-01A(1).jpg

here is a pic of one

BTW I sent you a PM with some more info...

 

[IrollwithTojo]

I look at this thread every single night to see the unbelievable work that is going into this thing. Nothing short of amazing. I remember way back when I got a PM from you guys on an inquiry about my 62 thats for sale (still ) I never thought that little PM would turn into the build up and cause that it is today.

Hat's off to you fellas

-Carl

 

[sandcruiser]

edic motor repair
bunch of pics of the edic control and motor

I think you can read the part number on this one.

Can anyone help us out with part numbers? We are looking for the following:

12v non-superglow glow plug timer
12v glow plug relay
12v EDIC motor

Thanks everyone for your help.

Leni

 

[sandcruiser]

oops, just saw that you need the motor, not the control box.

if you don't have the parts already, I'd say that you are better off installing a cable-controlled injection control. Pretty simple--- just push to start, pull 1/2 way to drive, pull to kill.

Or you could install a simple solenoid to cut the fuel when the key is removed.

All that the EDIC does is
1) adds extra fuel when starting
2) stops adding extra fuel once started
3) stops fuel to stop motor if oil pressure is too low
4) stops fuel to stop motor if key is turned to "off"

For a lot less $$ than the toyota edic parts, you can make a system that will do just about the same stuff, just using a cable, a relay, and a solenoid.

 

[sandcruiser]

also--- easier than the toyota glow system, you can install a simple push-button and relay to control the glow plugs. Unless they are somewhere very cold.... they won't need to glow for more than a couple of seconds.

I would also bet that dodge or GM or Ford have some sort of glow system that is cheaper than toyotas. Easier to get parts here, harder to get there, but the glow system isn't really high-priority unless their temps are regularly below 50 degrees.

 

[goldchaser]

If you need those edic parts etc let me know guys,i can get them cheap,i wouldn't mind helping out,it will be a couple of weeks postage from oz though.

 

[cruiser_guy]

Sandcruiser's advice is all good but if Ben, the new owner of the truck, is not mechanically inclined I'd be tempted to keep it 100% stock. Push/Pull cables and butons to press are fine for folks who know what's going on but otherwise stock is better.

I have this box if you want. PM me if interested.

 

[zuluzeugma]

oops, just saw that you need the motor, not the control box.

if you don't have the parts already, I'd say that you are better off installing a cable-controlled injection control. Pretty simple--- just push to start, pull 1/2 way to drive, pull to kill.

Or you could install a simple solenoid to cut the fuel when the key is removed.

All that the EDIC does is
1) adds extra fuel when starting
2) stops adding extra fuel once started
3) stops fuel to stop motor if oil pressure is too low
4) stops fuel to stop motor if key is turned to "off"

For a lot less $$ than the toyota edic parts, you can make a system that will do just about the same stuff, just using a cable, a relay, and a solenoid.

We thought about this but wanted to keep it as stock as possible using only Toyota parts so a mechanic in Africa can actually get parts for it if something does break in the future.

also--- easier than the toyota glow system, you can install a simple push-button and relay to control the glow plugs. Unless they are somewhere very cold.... they won't need to glow for more than a couple of seconds.

I would also bet that dodge or GM or Ford have some sort of glow system that is cheaper than toyotas. Easier to get parts here, harder to get there, but the glow system isn't really high-priority unless their temps are regularly below 50 degrees.

Again, only Toyota parts. Also, The 2H requires glow no matter the ambient temp as we learned the hard way. Even if its 120 degrees outside, the engine WILL NOT start without glow (I don't think the compression ratio is high enough)

Sandcruiser's advice is all good but if Ben, the new owner of the truck, is not mechanically inclined I'd be tempted to keep it 100% stock. Push/Pull cables and butons to press are fine for folks who know what's going on but otherwise stock is better.

I have this box if you want. PM me if interested.

Exactly...

We are really looking for an Australian 2H with EVERYTHING that can send it all over to us with wires labeled. I'm probably dreaming here. If someone was parting out a Canadian BJ60, all those guts would work too. No luck yet with finding this stuff. PM if you have it.

 

[goldchaser]

Post up what you exactly need,tomorrow i have to go and see a guy who has 3 hj60's sitting in his yard,im taking a lower tailgate for my truck,they all have the glow system etc still on,he sells to me fairly cheap.If you need extra wiring running into the cab its no problem,i'll pull what you need.

 

[zuluzeugma]

Post up what you exactly need,tomorrow i have to go and see a guy who has 3 hj60's sitting in his yard,im taking a lower tailgate for my truck,they all have the glow system etc still on,he sells to me fairly cheap.If you need extra wiring running into the cab its no problem,i'll pull what you need.

That would be AWESOME.

I really need EVERYTHING Glow and EDIC related. All relays, wires, and controlling. If the wires were labeled, even better. I really don't want to send this thing to Africa "mickey moused" together. I would much rather do it right. Had I known this was going to be this big of an issue, I would have been working on this months ago.

You can PM me if you have good news.

Thanks a TON in advance.

 

[Jan-78FJ40]

That would be AWESOME.

I really need EVERYTHING Glow and EDIC related. All relays, wires, and controlling. If the wires were labeled, even better. I really don't want to send this thing to Africa "mickey moused" together. I would much rather do it right. Had I known this was going to be this big of an issue, I would have been working on this months ago.

You can PM me if you have good news.

Thanks a TON in advance.

One thing I don't understand, and please don't take this the wrong way: You swapped the engine from an HJ60 that was pretty complete. So you hopefully swapped most of the harness too, right? If you did not, you'll have a hell of a time wiring this up. The edic relay has 9 wired connecting the oil pressure, the glow system, the ignition and the edic motor. the glow system goes through the ignition and the temp system, and the starter relay is connected to both. There are no separate harness pieces that will plug into and FJ60 harness to turn it into an HJ60 harness. If you did not swap the harness you will have to use the manual systems suggested above for fuel control and pre-heating.
cheers,
jan

 

[cruiser_guy]

So you hopefully swapped most of the harness too, right? If you did not, you'll have a hell of a time wiring this up.

Very true! I used a BJ60 harness in wiring up the FJ55 so everything would work. If you're trying to make this work with the FJ60 harness I say "Quit while you're ahead!".

 

[goldchaser]

I was out there today but hadn't heard from you guys,i'll pop back tomorrow and see what he can do price wise,how much of the original loom do you have?
As in hj60 loom or don't you have any at all,was this a conversion,this might give me an idea.

Oh ok now i read the other posts i understand its a conversion,do you want a complete loom.

 

[cruiser_guy]

I was out there today but hadn't heard from you guys,i'll pop back tomorrow and see what he can do price wise,how much of the original loom do you have?
As in hj60 loom or don't you have any at all,was this a conversion,this might give me an idea.

Oh ok now i read the other posts i understand its a conversion,do you want a complete loom.

It was a conversion but he had a 24v HJ60. We're not sure how much of that loom he's used.

 

[zuluzeugma]

It was a conversion but he had a 24v HJ60. We're not sure how much of that loom he's used.

Correct. We asked around and they said EVERYTHING there was 12V, so we want to make sure they could work on it. To boot, we want him to have dual batteries with isolation and to do that on 24V, it would have taken four batteries. Also, we had a donated 12V winch.

I haven't hack the wiring harness at all from the 24V HJ60. I just thought it would be easier if everything came as a bundle.