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If the key and combo can use the same installation "D" hole then I'll offer both I think.
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If the key and combo can use the same installation "D" hole then I'll offer both I think.
Price estimate yet?
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Not until I get quotes and price out components. Going to be doing first protos next week.
I was hoping someone makes something like this. Even the detachable faceplate of stereos could be stored there among other things.
Yes, I would definitely buy one of these.
Yes, I would definitely buy one of these.
I get it! Filling the console with milk will further hide the lockbox. Genius!
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Aren't the votes 30 to 5 in favor of the LC? 
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Aren't the votes 30 to 5 in favor of the LC?
Yes but you haven't dropped off your LC's console before I could do my own LX console so
Not unless it's a nice lock, no. Just my opinion.
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Fair enough. School me on what is a "nice lock". The depression in the lid will be max .50". Because I want the lid+lock perfectly flush so that the liner sits flat and looks like a false bottom. It also must have the standard "D" keyway for interchangeability.
If your max depression is 0.5" I don't think you will find a combination lock that can be flush, the smallest combination style I have seen is 5/8" tall and 1.5" diameter. A compromise might be to have the depression depth based on a keyed cam but have it at a larger diameter so someone can install a combination type that isn't flush. It still wouldn't fit a push button combination type though and either a flat lid option or a spacer in the depression would be needed to accommodate that.
How are you planning on opening the lid? Will the edge of the lid be back from the side of the console enough to grab? Hole in the lid for a grab? Dedicated pull loop? I think most keyed cam locks release the key in either position which makes them less than useful as a handle. (Edit: I now see several that don't release the key when opened, but I would still prefer to have the option to leave it unlocked and remove the key so I can leave it unlocked when I am either in the truck or don't have anything in it.) For my mod, I thought about using a finger pull but decided I could add it later if needed and for now I am just going to use the combi-cam lock which should be enough to hold on to.
As for "standard keyways", I have only seen the 3/4" diameter "double-D" keyway used for combination locks but there are many different styles and sizes for other types of cam locks.
How are you planning on opening the lid? Will the edge of the lid be back from the side of the console enough to grab? Hole in the lid for a grab? Dedicated pull loop? I think most keyed cam locks release the key in either position which makes them less than useful as a handle. (Edit: I now see several that don't release the key when opened, but I would still prefer to have the option to leave it unlocked and remove the key so I can leave it unlocked when I am either in the truck or don't have anything in it.) For my mod, I thought about using a finger pull but decided I could add it later if needed and for now I am just going to use the combi-cam lock which should be enough to hold on to.
As for "standard keyways", I have only seen the 3/4" diameter "double-D" keyway used for combination locks but there are many different styles and sizes for other types of cam locks.
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Okay, in terms of quality locks, remember this: No lock is unpickable, even the nicest, but the nicest are much harder to pick. I'm not sure what lock would be "overkill" since I don't know how hard it would be to cut through the box, rip the center console out, etc (you would know far better than us on this matter) - but I do know for sure that a cheap lock (Kwikset, for example) can be picked almost instantly as shown in the video. Note that he isn't even using real lockpicks (a cute trick would be to take the spring steel from the wiper blades to use as a lockpick). The locks typically included on "lock boxes" are even worse than that. That's my issue with cheap locks. With a high security lock, you may be encouraging someone to simply steal the truck if it's easier. So what would be sufficient?
If price was not an issue, I would tend to choose Medeco. Can they be picked? Yes, but not by anybody running around breaking into trucks. Just don't irritate the CIA. I went through Medeco's cam lock selector, and the part number I came up with was: 60W1250T-239-05. Here's the specs:
Body Length 7/16" (0.440)
Head Length 3/8" (0.405)
Pins 3
Head Diameter 1"
Flats 2 Flats
Key Pulls 1 Key Pull
Rotation Direction 90° Counter Clockwise
Key Way Position 6:00
Finish Polished Brass
Head Length 3/8" (0.405)
Pins 3
Head Diameter 1"
Flats 2 Flats
Key Pulls 1 Key Pull
Rotation Direction 90° Counter Clockwise
Key Way Position 6:00
Finish Polished Brass
I want you to create a lockable top compartment on the top of the FE holder with a key lock and a hinge. Then I can put the key for my center console in that box in case I lose it and I can put my back-up key for the FE box in the center console so I'm always covered. Then, include cellophane and rubber bands so I can stuff the one remaining key up my a$$ while I go swimming in the pond and I doesn't have to worry about nobody stealing my stuff while I'm having fun! This way I have a place to put my wallet, registration, gub, and chewing tobacco while I'm away from my honey!
Better yet, I want to buy a center lock box and a FE box that are keyed-alike.
Also, this way, when all of us 80 owners get together, we can all steal $hit from each other's center consoles and switch it with other drivers so it's kinda like hide-and seek for our stuff but among "friends"........
Better yet, I want to buy a center lock box and a FE box that are keyed-alike.
Also, this way, when all of us 80 owners get together, we can all steal $hit from each other's center consoles and switch it with other drivers so it's kinda like hide-and seek for our stuff but among "friends"........
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Dude you are soo freaking weird! I don't understand this methodology of thinking at all. Is this a Kansas thing?
I mean just do what everyone else does and drop the key in a condom (preferably unused...whatever) and knot up the open end. Then keester it. why get all hillbilly with Saran Wrap and old Brocolli bands?
That reminds of a chick in high school..... nevermind carry on.Dude you are soo freaking weird! I don't understand this methodology of thinking at all. Is this a Kansas thing?
I mean just do what everyone else does and drop the key in a condom (preferably unused...whatever) and knot up the open end. Then keester it. why get all hillbilly with Saran Wrap and old Brocolli bands?
Dude you are soo freaking weird! I don't understand this methodology of thinking at all. Is this a Kansas thing?
I mean just do what everyone else does and drop the key in a condom (preferably unused...whatever) and knot up the open end. Then keester it. why get all hillbilly with Saran Wrap and old Brocolli bands?
I'm referring to the Swimming thread where the guy was asking about where to CC his gun while swimming and it was mentioned about saran wrap and vaseline for him.... I thought this was common everywhere. I see it on TV all the time!
Besides....WHERE THE HELL AM I GOING TO CARRY A KEY AT THE SWIMMING HOLE THAT NO ONE WILL STEAL IT AND I WON"T LOSE IT?
Laced into your nasty old sneakers or boots?
Ain't nobody gonna mess with those..
Ain't nobody gonna mess with those..
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Since I was 16 I would put my keys in a ziplock bag and just cover it with loose ground covering. I put a rock or piece of wood over it. Even if I forgot which rock or log I did it close enough to the truck where I'd eventually find it.
No one found my key and I only panicked once when I couldn't remember which rock.
Now I just hide it in the official Toyota hiding spot and call it a day.
No one found my key and I only panicked once when I couldn't remember which rock.
Now I just hide it in the official Toyota hiding spot and call it a day.
I got one of these guys locking console insert for my wife's Rav4 www.ConsoleVault.com
It doesn't have a bottom and uses the factory mounting holes. I find it very useful. If you make one for the LC, I'd be interested in it. I would prefer a combination lock like the one on the console vault.
It doesn't have a bottom and uses the factory mounting holes. I find it very useful. If you make one for the LC, I'd be interested in it. I would prefer a combination lock like the one on the console vault.