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Thanks 00279-DGOLF worked2 quarts are on the way, $47 each
Unicorntears might arrive
The metal can stuff was discontinued Q4 2025. It was replaced by 00279-DGOLF which is made by ENEOS USA according to the label.
didn't some of the speculation get put to rest here..We have CAFE fuel economy regulations to thank for many things, like 0W20 oil and auto start/stop buttons.
I suspect 75W only exists for a marginal fuel economy improvement over 75W90. If Toyota can save 0.1 mpg on every truck/SUV running LG, that makes their CAFE rating go up. I also suspect that Toyota never cared much about the availability of the LG fluid for actual owners, after all the EPA fuel economy rating that CAFE is based is probably established based on the as-delivered vehicle. If the factory TC fill is LG and it gets 0.1 mpg better in the EPA test, that may have been the end goal of LG fluid. If Toyota cared what the 2nd TC fill after the LG is, they would promote their own lubricants (pre- and post-Iranian conflict) through their dealers and make them widely available for purchase. But they have not done that. Again, lots of speculation on my part, but Toyota shares little info so we are left to speculate.
Luckily my GX470 specs GL5 75W90 for it's Torsen center diff, so that is what I run.
It is weird that the phosphorous levels on the Toyota LF is so high. Phosphorous is one of the chemicals (the other is sulphur) that have an adverse reaction with yellow metals. Looks like the LF uses a ZDDP additive package. There are for's and against's ZDDP, but that another rabbit hole. Just looking at composition is a starting point, but running each type for 5000 miles, then sending it out for testing results would have provided a lot more data to compare.didn't some of the speculation get put to rest here..
Finally received the new Toyota 75W oil analysis. Below is a table comparing all relevant products that I could find data.
My takeaways:
- Toyota fluid has a substantial additive package for anti-wear and anti-corrosion
- New Toyota fluid is similar make-up as old fluid
- Redline Oil has similar levels of anti-wear and anti-corrosion additives, but is different than Toyota (calcium vs magnesium).
Lots of Calcium vs Magnesium discussion on the interwebs for detergents and anti-wear properties if folks want to learn, just note that engine oil characteristics/demands is...
It's certainly a nice additive package, but that does not prove or disprove my speculationdidn't some of the speculation get put to rest here..
Finally received the new Toyota 75W oil analysis. Below is a table comparing all relevant products that I could find data.
My takeaways:
- Toyota fluid has a substantial additive package for anti-wear and anti-corrosion
- New Toyota fluid is similar make-up as old fluid
- Redline Oil has similar levels of anti-wear and anti-corrosion additives, but is different than Toyota (calcium vs magnesium).
Lots of Calcium vs Magnesium discussion on the interwebs for detergents and anti-wear properties if folks want to learn, just note that engine oil characteristics/demands is...
. Nor does it prove (or disprove) that the additives are necessary for supporting longevity of the T-case. Toyota would have to opine on the reason their special fluid exists at all, which we all know they are not going to do. But, my T-case is much less robust than the 200 and Tundra T-cases, is nearly 20 years old has over 200K on it, and lives just fine on a diet of $13/quart Mobil Delvac 75W90 GL-5 that is changed every couple of 2-3 years. So, I will contend that Toyota torsen T-cases are robust and not particularly sensitive to minor variations in fluid type. The final production may be in the USA, but it's possible the base stock still comes from overseas.
The GL rating is based on the extreme pressure rating. The higher the EP it is rated for the higher the GL rating. The difference between GL-4 and 5 is the zinc and phosphorous additives to attain this rating. 5 has double the amount as 4 does on average. Zinc and phosphorus are great EP additives, except that they react aggressively with copper and bronze.
Yeah, I agree. I switched my 2019 to 5W30 mobile one EP full synthetic over the sprc 0w20 what a joke.We have CAFE fuel economy regulations to thank for many things, like 0W20 oil and auto start/stop buttons.
I suspect 75W only exists for a marginal fuel economy improvement over 75W90. If Toyota can save 0.1 mpg on every truck/SUV running LG, that makes their CAFE rating go up. I also suspect that Toyota never cared much about the availability of the LG fluid for actual owners, after all the EPA fuel economy rating that CAFE is based is probably established based on the as-delivered vehicle. If the factory TC fill is LG and it gets 0.1 mpg better in the EPA test, that may have been the end goal of LG fluid. If Toyota cared what the 2nd TC fill after the LG is, they would promote their own lubricants (pre- and post-Iranian conflict) through their dealers and make them widely available for purchase. But they have not done that. Again, lots of speculation on my part, but Toyota shares little info so we are left to speculate
Luckily my GX470 specs GL5 75W90 for it's Torsen center diff, so that is what I run.
perfect. i have about 1500 miles on my ravenol so far. I am also planning to send it when I do a change. When is TBD...maybe your sample result will determine that haha..
My heretical liqui-moly is still doing fine in the TC.It's certainly a nice additive package, but that does not prove or disprove my speculation
The final production may be in the USA, but it's possible the base stock still comes from overseas.
You sir are a LC abuser.My heretical liqui-moly is still doing fine in the TC.
Folks over on the other forums....including GX-owning peasantry like myself....are seemingly much more fine with running cheap fluids in our rigs
. I've done my part in being a bad influence via promoting Maxlife ATF over Toyota WS trans fluid, and then Mobil Delvac over Toyota LG. I do, however, use and support Toyota pink SLLC as it's basically the same price as generic aftermarket fluids .
