2F Rebuild vs 3FE conversion for 82 fj60

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Keep your tank, nothing wrong with in inline external pump. get one that can do 43 Psi. Summit racing has a good one, Roc doc and I have it in our rigs.
 
Regarding the 3FE into a 60 in California... El Ripster on this forum has an '85, with 3FE and H55, california BAR-approved. You might want to send him a message. Sounds like a great setup. But I doubt it was easy, and I doubt it was cheap. And it's possible that having the H55 is mandatory, since the 4 spd was never officially mated to the 3FE and that kind of thing matters to BAR. So your bill just jumped another 3 grand, and that's just parts.

There have been many times when I've been screwing around with my carb that I wished I could go 3FE. Just not with the auto trans.
 
I think the newer swap regs are tougher and more wordy than they had been...the trans only becomes an issue if you're swapping in OBDII or newer I THINK....but again, I could be wrong, and no one admits to being able to have done this recently...PLEASE PIPE UP IF YOU KNOW OTHERWISE>>>thanX
 
if it were me I would find a good used 2f and swap it out. I hear what you're saying about cold temps and altitude. My home sits at 8120 feet and below zero temps. The main reason I have stock wheels and tires is driving at altitude is less frustrating.
 
yes my 33" tires and 2" body lift certainly don't help at altitude.
so with the 3fe there are still issues with smog referee etc? I thought it was fairly straightforward...
that was an added incentive of doing the conversion, to actually be able to pass smog and not have to go into to the underworld for that..
 
same year or newer engine of the same size or larger without any internal or external mods to the engine...FWIU. If you mechanic knows a way around this, PLEASE GIVE HIM MY NUMBER
 
NookShneer said:
If the car is titled in a different state which doesn't have these rules and then the title transferred is that a possible work around the CA BAR?
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I think that it used to be a loophole that you could get through with some conversions but I know that the new CARB laws have become a lot more stringent. However, it seems (assuming here) that the OP is located in a location that he can live in CA but have the vehicle registered in another (part-time residence or whatever) and thus can get around it by registering the vehicle in another state that does not have the same laws (e.g. NV outside of Clark and Washoe Counties).

My question is, he has not eluded to this so I am wondering if he is doing this "illegally" and then will not worry about proper registration of the vehicle OR register it as a classic/hot rod/etc. type vehicle that has mileage limitations on it but no emissions limitations/restrictions.
 
After some research I have decided to go for the out-of-state exemption route if I cannot get it to pass here due to CA BAR laws.(which seems to be impossible apparently with 3FE conversion according to most of you)

One more question for all of you, I have someone with a donor 3FE but from a fj80 and not fj62. my understanding is that the engine is identical, will this motor work for conversion or will there be extra modifications and problems that arise as far compatibility etc? It is a good deal but I dont want to end with a problematic i.e.. costly situation with my mechanic because the engine is not ideal for a fj60.

thanks again!
 
Iirc the engine is the same but not the harness and possibly other differences like engine mounts...but do your research. This is covered in a few threads out there
 
doctorfaustus said:
After some research I have decided to go for the out-of-state exemption route if I cannot get it to pass here due to CA BAR laws.(which seems to be impossible apparently with 3FE conversion according to most of you)

One more question for all of you, I have someone with a donor 3FE but from a fj80 and not fj62. my understanding is that the engine is identical, will this motor work for conversion or will there be extra modifications and problems that arise as far compatibility etc? It is a good deal but I dont want to end with a problematic i.e.. costly situation with my mechanic because the engine is not ideal for a fj60.

thanks again!
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See if you can find a good, knowledgeable ref and start talking with them. Record EVERYTHING and get business cards (note: if you voice record the conversation by law you are obligated to inform them). Be up front with what you would like to do, plenty of knowledge on what you are going to be transferring from one vehicle to another, etc. You never know, you may get a guy that helps you out and you ARE able to legally do it. Going about things legally is always preferable in this matter.

60 toy ota said:
Iirc the engine is the same but not the harness and possibly other differences like engine mounts...but do your research. This is covered in a few threads out there
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This.....
The engine, while technically the same, is controlled differently by different computers. So if you pull the engine make sure you get the EXACT year computers for it as well (whether purchasing separately or not).
 
Thank you Gregnash for useful info. and yes i would prefer do smog issue legally if possible. Thanks for the heads up on engine, I found a thread detailing the mods necessary to make the Fj80 3FE work for a fj60 and there are definitely issues to be dealt with going that route. not to mention finding the right computer and wiring harness for that particular engine. still looking for a complete 62 donor rig but it is not easy to come by like it was 5 years ago...

What do you guys think of the cruiser parts.net 3FE conversion kit they sell?: 1958-1987 EFI Toyota Landcruiser Conversion Kit
 
I was actually looking at those as well when I thought I had more issues than I really did with my truck (see a couple months ago on my build thread). Would LOVE to have EFI and not worry about tuning a carb or choke or anything like that. Seems like a good little kit and comes with everything that you would need to convert your truck over to the 3FE. For ~$2600 you could have a really nice, used but tested engine that is pretty much just a plug n play solution.
 
doctorfaustus said:
One more question for all of you, I have someone with a donor 3FE but from a fj80 and not fj62. my understanding is that the engine is identical, will this motor work for conversion or will there be extra modifications and problems that arise as far compatibility etc? It is a good deal but I dont want to end with a problematic i.e.. costly situation with my mechanic because the engine is not ideal for a fj60.

thanks again!
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Another minor difference to be aware of, even if you're able to find a donor FJ62, is the size of the holes in the end of the crankshaft for the flywheel bolts. Later FJ62s and FJ80s use 11mm flywheel bolts - earlier FJ62s use 10mm bolts, just like the FJ60s. Details below:

Toyota Service Bulletin dated 10-05-90

The length and diameter of the flywheel set bolt has changed. This results in changes to the crankshaft and drive plate as well.

Starting with:

Production Date October 1989

VIN JT3FJ62G*L1186060

Engine No. 3F-250226

The new short block assembly part number is 11400–61121 (was 11400–61120)
 
Can anyone here explain to me the advantages of doing a 2FE "hybrid?" (3FE head on 2F)
do you need less for conversion then?
(excuse my ignorance)
thanks for the help, just trying to make best decision. really settled on idea of fuel injection at this point.
 
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