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ok, got a little cash left over from christmas (read...little...cash) and need to get a header for the 45 (it's got a 2f). i talked to a buddy (ron, at rmc cruisers) and he's extremely pleased with the downey headers and supposedly, they make one in my price range ($150-180). anyone recommend anything else?

i've done the search thing and come up with this so far.

maf 6-1 = hard to seal
asphincter = pricey
saw one good post for the looks of tpi (anyone got a comment on those?)
downey tri y = pricey.

most have said the tri-y and specters setup won't fit with pto. i do plan on a pto, but so far, it doesn't plan on my 45. the four speed setup has pushed stuff back just far enough that the oem would require floor mods that i don' t want to do and i haven't had time to check my ramsey drive unit yet.

i can rule out anything from jto, and i can't find anything on cool cruisers sight. what other options are there? everytime i turn around, i see another cruiser vendor...someone's got to have another purchasing choice for a header.

fwiw, i do expect this to be a throw away choice, so don't try to sell me on spending the extra $ for ceramic coated. i just need something to last a few years because i know i'm going to change stuff around (i always do) and after 4years, I WANT TO DRIVE THIS THING!!!

anybody that has decent used headers, please contact me ...i'm interested :D
 
I will look around, seems that I tripped over a set when I was digging out all that stuff for Mike.


Will look tomorrow.

-Steve
 
IDave runs a header AND a PTO, I bought his old SOR 6 into 2 header. Whatever you get it should have the same thickness flanges as the intake so you don't have to screw with half washers.
You could PM IDave as he is schooled in this exact situation.
Ed


BTW Nuc, how are those Pinnacle Springs????
 
I did run the MAF 6>1 header for a while, because it fit with the Toyota PTO. But I like the original exhaust manifold, because I think the exhaust heat riser works better for warmups than a fluid heat riser (plus there is that leak issue, although I solved that in my case by double gasketing). So I've been back to stock exhaust for a year.

I recall GreenWeanie saying once that there is another header that fits with the PTO, but I don't recall the brand off hand. Might have been TPI, but i wouldn't count on it.

If I follow you, though, Ige, your winch is a Ramsey PTO, correct? If so, the fitment might be different than with the Toyota.

I have the Downey Catalog from 2001, and it says there that their header does not fit with the PTO/winch setup. They may have changed things since then, but I suspect not. The flange connecting the header to the header pipe is too wide to allow the PTO driveshaft to pass. This is the same for Spectre's 2 piece. I would call Downey and ask them for sure.

I have a header of unknown origin in my FJ45. One of the POs put it in and forced the PTO driveshaft in alongside it. It grooved and bent the PTO driveshaft, worn so deeply it is probably not safe to use, so I'm going to have to have the driveshaft repaired. Guess I'll end up with a stock exhaust manifold on that, too.
 
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thanks idave.

i doubt my pto will see much use, so i don't think i'll run into the bending shaft issue (i'm keeping it on because it came with it and i really don't want to stick it on another cruiser, plus, once in a while i may use it). i doubt i'll use it often, so if it rubs a few times, i don't mind...like i said, it will be a throw away exhaust system for now.

has anyone ever had headers that don't fit modified to fit?

fluid heat riser is a minor concern...this won't be a daily driver and i won't let it loose on the colorado roads in winter until the state gets rid of mag chloride...eventually, i will have the cab dipped and i'm not going to go through the trouble just to let the magchlo kill my vehicle.
 
I do hate that MgCl.

You might be able to grind out a notch in the flange to get the shaft by. I thought about this when I was dealing with the SOR 2 piece. But that is also a good spot for an exhaust leak, and if you grind away that space the gasket there may fail (might anyway). Maybe not a big deal to you if you aren't driving a lot, but I don't like breathing the CO (that's carbon monoxide, not colorado!) fumes all that much in my daily driver 40.
 
I have a 6 into 2 header setup in my garage for a 2f pay for the shipping and its yours. I ran the 6to1 on my 60 with the maf hi-comp motor and weber carb never had warmup issues. It ran great, it never gave me any trouble. PM me if you want the headers.
 
Wolfman, sent you a PM. If nukecitron isn't interested I'll go the deal..
 
Wolfman said:
I have a 6 into 2 header setup in my garage for a 2f pay for the shipping and its yours. I ran the 6to1 on my 60 with the maf hi-comp motor and weber carb never had warmup issues. It ran great, it never gave me any trouble. PM me if you want the headers.
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cool thanks...you've got mail
 
I run the MAF 6-1 on my 55 (2F) with absolutely no seal problems and definite noticeable seat-of-the-pants feel since I put it on. Although... I've only driven the car about 200 miles since I put it on. :-)

I live in California, so no problems with warm-up for me. :flipoff2:


Jeremy
 
Boy, am I glad you didn't take the one off my 40 the other night while we were working on the LX450. I'd go out and check, but I drove it yesterday and I would have heard it if it wasn't there.
 
I don't like the SOR header because of multiple sealing and clearance issues. Don't like the MAF 6 into one [same header TPI sells] because the tubes ALWAYS crack where you can't get to them to seal them. I sell the same header as Downey, the tri-y, and while they are spendy, the only thing worse than doing this job is doing it over and over again because you tried to save a few bucks on a poorer quality part.

That said, if you find a good deal on a used Downey tri-y, save some money and buy it. All headers are gonna crack eventually, so you might as well save what you can on the right-type header.

As far as clearance, Downey told me their header wouldn't work with the column shift, but I have successfully modified the column shifts in two different cruisers already to work with them. I suspect the same could be said for the PTO.
 
Romer said:
Boy, am I glad you didn't take the one off my 40 the other night while we were working on the LX450. I'd go out and check, but I drove it yesterday and I would have heard it if it wasn't there.
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i did take it...what you think is your header is actually the inner cardboard tubes from all the rolls of papertowels in your garage :flipoff2:
 
Hey Ige, you still looking for a header? I have a 6to1 that I just had HPC Ceramic-coated inside & out (BLING!!!), traps heat, no rust, etc... I don't think I am going to put it on my Cruiser so it may be for sale soon. Lemme know.
 
Toyo FJ40 said:
What's wrong with JTO headers? I was looking at them and was high bidder on a set on e_bay till about an hour ago. I have MAF on my 72 and the JTO look the same.

Just wondering cause I need a set too.
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JTO- Lets just say Ige was an unsatisfied customer with the Pinnacle Springs she bought.

Just look at her sig line. There was a thread a while back about it.
 
Romer said:
JTO- Lets just say Ige was an unsatisfied customer with the Pinnacle Springs she bought.

Just look at her sig line. There was a thread a while back about it.
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thats a huge understatement!
 
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