2025 Relic Run Sunday Oct 19

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90WT

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Back by popular demand, the Relic Run is being offered for the distinguished vintage Toyota owner.

If you've got an old rig that needs a trail day, come join us. Speeds are low, fun is high.

1989 and older seems about right. But everyone is welcome to join. If you have fancy 21st century features like electric windows and a cup holder, we'll just point and laugh and put you at the back of the pack. ;)

When: Sunday, October 19, 2025

Trail: Avalanche Creek to Hogback Mountain Lookout to Nelson Rd. This will be a loop.
We'll end up in York, MT via Nelson Rd, hopefully around 3 or 4 pm. Then folks can head back home however they choose. We're expecting this trail to be fun, and not super difficult. The run will cover some decent mileage with some stunning views of the Big Belts, Helena, and surrounding areas.

Two Meetup times and spots:

For those coming from Bozeman/Belgrade: Meetup at 8:00 at Townsend Sinclair
Rocky Mountain Supply - Townsend
7847 US-287
46.307139, -111.513528

For those coming from Helena: Meetup with the group at 8:45 at Hwy 284 turn off to Avalanche Gulch Rd
MT-284 & Avalanche Gulch Rd
46.60431, -111.61047

Your rig might get scratches and get buried to the axles in mud and need a recovery. Ya know, fun stuff.

What you'll need:
A good sense of humor.
Patience.
Gifts for others if you bring a rig that has alien tech like traction control or ABS.
A winch. (Not really, but in case you need an excuse to get one :cool:)
A thermos of coffee to drink and share.
GMRS Radio.
Other stuff...-Standard trail equipment is expected. Fire extinguisher, working e-brake (if you're lucky), radio, spare, etc. Read this as a disclaimer to bring a rig that is trail ready. But also realize there will be air compressors and other misc gear abound, so if you don't have everything OK4WD has in their catalog, don't sweat it.

GMRS/FRS Channel 15
Ham Channel 146.460

Post up if you're in and I'll add you to the list. Tag others that I forgot.
Post up if you're interested in camping. There's some great spots for solo or groups up Avalanche Gulch and surrounding areas.

Confirmed:
@90WT
@pigmony
@elkun1
@geo5 (before his frame up restoration)
@3_puppies (and maybe some Helena friends?)

Maybe:
@MTsoul
@BigSky406

Tagorama:
[/USER] @bagochips76 @rkymtnflyfisher @3_puppies @REZARF @1989FJ @cuwallace2 @ttFJC @MTMarcoux @thetoyotaman @YotaPaullie @nohermosa @mccracken @hygge
 
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Maybe, just maybe, one day I'll make a trail run. I've been in the club for almost 9 years (I think) and I've never made a run. Unfortunately, I'll be out of town on Oct. 19th. :rolleyes:
 
Screenshot 2025-09-04 101936.webp
 
Lava Mountain Loop
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Southwest of Helena
26 mi
4/10

Magpie Creek to Avalanche Creek
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East of Helena
28 mi
4/10

I've never done either of these, but they look interesting. I'm open to other suggestions, variations on these suggestions, insults, trivia, personal anecdotes, family recipes, and investment advice.

Edit: Added screenshots for non-OnX users. (You can view maps with a free OnX account.)
 
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Can you do some screenshots? Links don't work without an OnX account.

I was thinking Avalanche Creek area too. The Club did a run up there a few years back and it was cool. We came down Confederate Creek (to the east of Avalanche Creek) which was exposed two track with great views. I wondered if we could also loop in Hogback Mountain lookout on that run. (46.82657, -111.71115)

And also trying to make something work in the Gravellys or south of there around Hidden Lake (44.71805, -111.60045).
 
I don’t think you can make it to lava mountain via that route anymore. Or maybe they did go the long way. Used to be a fun shortcut but the hill was super washed out and I dented my a pillar very bad. I’d have to look at my Gaia
 
@90WT I am interested and trying to make this work. Count me in as a Maybe. Thx
 
Cool. I did get those links to work, without a current subscription.

The blue path is what we did for the Club run. Nothing too difficult as I recall. Avalanche Butte had a great view, and a old survey bench mark. Yellow path is the connector to Hogback Lookout. But it might be too far out to connect in one day.
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Maybe we look at the Avalanche Creek area and try to put together a route around there?

Trail 4155 goes up to Hogback lookout/comms site about 6 1/2 miles north of York.

One possible route:
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We could make one of the gas stations in Townsend our rally point. Convoy north for 25 miles on 284 to Avalanche Gulch Rd. (46.60431, -111.61043) Probably air down and then drive 18ish miles north on Avalanche Gulch Rd to Antelope Creek Rd. (46.80198, -111.52652) 11ish miles west on Antelope Creek Rd/4155 gets us to the lookout. (46.82638, -111.71031) Then another 5 1/2ish miles west on Antelope Creek Rd/4155 gets us to Nelson Rd, which would be our air up point. (46.79671, -111.79515)

Any thoughts on that?
 
The route I posted would miss Avalanche Butte.
 
A big loop sounds fun. I like it.
No biggie to skip Antelope Butte, but depending on timing, it might make a good side track to stop for lunch.
 
would I get home before midnight this time?
I can see if Lance got some new tires for his rig
I can check with Ryan also
maybe @wileycoyote and some others
 
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