1976 2F swap into 1966 Fj40

[kindoflikerambo]

Mudders,

I am seeking knowledge on a few idiosyncrasies of the swap mentioned in the title. Yes there are many considerations but I'll keep my questions bulleted and concise. First a few important considerations:
-I pulled the stock 1966 1F and have all the engine mounts and goodies. Engine ran great (only had 89k original miles) but I'm sick of adding lead additive and the 1bbl carb, while the MPGs are the best of any Cruiser I've driven, the power trade off doesn't quite suit my needs. Anyone looking for a complete running early 1F let me know and we'll make it happen on good terms for both parties.
-I have a complete 1976 2F stock with the exception of a brand new never installed Non-USA later OEM Aisin Carb.
-My 1966 fj40 is stock.

Questions:
1) Will I have height clearence issues dropping in my 1976 2F into my engine bay? If so how do you solve? Swap engine motor mount brackets? Air cleaner heights? What have you observed (not heard)?
2) How will I solve my (early early) style accelerator to mate with my newer carb? (I purchased a complete factory 1976 2F accelerator linkage package and a (mid-later vintage) style orange boot accelerator pedal but would rather seek options for ease that people have observed (not heard). Is there a good cable option that would make my life easier?

If you have read this far thank you for you time! I have conducted a lot of research over the years in anticipation of this swap and there are many rights and wrongs and opinions. I am hoping for first hand observations or knowledge from the sage Landcruiser omnipotent pros who know! You know who you are out there and thank you for all the knowledge you have imbued on us Cruiser folks!

Once I'm finished with this swap I'll have some early Landcruiser drive terrain goodies. Have some other odds and ends I'll be losting to clean out too so let me know. Not trying to make a buck. Trying to keep the quality OEM parts in circulation for eveyone to enjoy!

Thanks again!

 

[kindoflikerambo]

Pedal is an oem from an early 70s that's cable linkage...I just straightened all the bends while flapping my grills. I was not into drilling holes in the firewall...but since I didn't disrespect the tub elsewhere I sent it.
Now all I need is a bracket to catch the other end of the aftermarket oe throttle cable

Awesome work! Send updated pics when you get it! This is the first spring/summer season I haven't had (major) home construction projects I have to do in over 10 years so I finally get some Cruiser time. Inspiration level high right now!

 

[kindoflikerambo]

Close up of the cable end

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Yes! Thanks for showing the rest of the story! Awesome! Inspiring. I'm going to solve this with y'alls help one way or another. Heading home tonight and will snap and upload some pics of what I'm working with for more tips. Your setup looks great! Might have to find me a donor Carolla. Pics help a ton!

 

[60 40]

That is not a federal spec part.
76s would have had a linkage arrangement. 75(at least, maybe even from 73) to 79 or newer all had a very similar linkage arrangement.

My bad, guess the bellcranks were on the early 1973 models not the '76.

 

[kindoflikerambo]

 

[kindoflikerambo]

Feeling reeeeeeal brand new right now. I'm outing myself to Mud and the world of my ignorance... Uhhg... When I finally got home this weekend and starting tinkering for my limited window of time being home on weekends, I didn't realize there are two carb insulators in the stack.

Anyways to keep on topic of 1) determining if I'll have engine height clearence issues dropping a non-us spec 2F into my old 1966 fj40 engine bay and 2) what are som solutions for accelerator linkage options. I'll post a few more pocs of what I have and hope for some to chime in and what they have done.

 

[charliemeyer007]

I like my cable throttle, very simple. I have a man-a-fre tungsten mixing screen in my assembly stack too. I'll go out and get some pic's later when it warms up so I can do an oil change.

 

[kindoflikerambo]

Here are some goodies I have to start with for accelerator linkage options. Show e what you got or throw some ideas! Better yet, I belive I purchased this 2F linkage kit from CruiserMatt years ago can someone show me what it looks like installed? I beleive it's just refurbed used 2F linkage?

 

[kindoflikerambo]

I like my cable throttle, very simple. I have a man-a-fre tungsten mixing screen in my assembly stack too. I'll go out and get some pic's later when it warms up so I can do an oil change.

Please do send pics! I'm leaning towards a cable setup for ease!

 

[rkymtnflyfisher]

determining if I'll have engine height clearence issues dropping a non-us spec 2F into my old 1966 fj40 engine bay

I think the non-US carb is shorter than the other US spec OEM carbs, I'll try to pull a measurement for you tonight or tomorrow.

 

[kindoflikerambo]

I think the non-US carb is shorter than the other US spec OEM carbs, I'll try to pull a measurement for you tonight or tomorrow.

That would be awesome! Thank you!

 

[brian]

Please do send pics! I'm leaning towards a cable setup for ease!

It will be the easiest and less intrusive way....there is bracket that catches the other end of the cable on the carb that needs made.
Do a search for trollhole carbs...he used to sell these non usa carbs back in the day when they were not readily available like now. He made a bracket to allow the use of a cable...super clean install.

 

[kindoflikerambo]

That would be awesome!

It will be the easiest and less intrusive way.

I agree, I just need to figure out a methodology of how to bracket everything to get tension going the right way from carb to pedal and vice versa. Now that my dum dum self ordered a carb insulator (which I overlooked) and I order some updated motor mounts for my 2F (thanks to everyone in this thread for telling me there is a differnce from early 1F to 2F bolt diameters on motor mount brackets) and tracked down 2F motor mount brackets, I'll probably mount my carb and intake on the engine and mock fit it in place and look at how I need to run my cable linkage.

 

[kindoflikerambo]

Lastnight I pulled my original accelerator pedal and looked at how a newer style pedal would mount. I was really hoping I could poke my new pedal through the original hole but that's not going to give me the proper pedal alignment. Since I'm probably going to go cable any ideas to avoid making any new holes? Should I just bend the sh±t out of this newer style pedal or is there a better solution? The pocture of the "L Bracket" is what linked my old style pedal to pole through the grommet to get the linkage though the firewall.

 

[kindoflikerambo]

 

[brian]

Get an oe cable throttle pedal.
Iirc I was able to use one of the original mounting holes.
Had to make two holes for for upper stopper/fire wall mount and one for the cable to pass through the firewall...thats the point I'm at now. When I get home later this weekend I will snap a few more pics....thought i had more, but don't at the moment.

 

[Pighead]

Show e what you got

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I recognize those parts, something pretty similar on a '74 FJ55...

 

[kindoflikerambo]

I recognize those parts, something pretty similar on a '74 FJ55...

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Thanks! That's actually really helpful!

 

[kindoflikerambo]

Get an oe cable throttle pedal.
Iirc I was able to use one of the original mounting holes.
Had to make two holes for for upper stopper/fire wall mount and one for the cable to pass through the firewall...thats the point I'm at now. When I get home later this weekend I will snap a few more pics....thought i had more, but don't at the moment.

I might have an oe cable in my stash from another vintage. Can't wait to see pics of what you have when you get bavk. Thanks Brian!

 

[charliemeyer007]

So I have some sort of Rochester 2 bbl. Been there since I got the rig in 82. Under the carb is a man-a-fre tungsten fuel vapor screen, an adapter/spacer of some sort and then the isolator gasket.

 

[kindoflikerambo]

So I have some sort of Rochester 2 bbl. Been there since I got the rig in 82. Under the carb is a man-a-fre tungsten fuel vapor screen, an adapter/spacer of some sort and then the isolator gasket.
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Thanks for posting pics. Ideas ideas ideas are what I need to sopve this puzzle thanks. That is an interesting linkage setup. Wonder if that's like one of those redline branded spacers that adapted webers and maybe Rochesters to the Toyota intake. Manfre was selling thosse and you mentioned a tungsten atomizer screen by them. Never heard of that before. Did a little reasearch and seems like a good idea. The accelerator pedal poc is a little difficult to see but it appears to be a differnt setup. Thanks for posting!