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legion said:
Depending on cost I'm interested in 5 or 10 wheels to fit FJ45's. I have a 63 and a 64.

Sounds like ccasteel's in for 5 or 10 as well.

This would be 10 or 20 wheels, depending, and for 40's (right cca?).

Any others? 25 series buyers?
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MoCoNative said:
I would be up for 5 if we can keep the price reasonable.
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Sounds like we've got all FJ45 buyers here.

It also sounds like we've got somewhere between 15 and 25 wheels... maybe more?

I don't have a clue about how to couch this to your source, Mot. Sorry I can't help there. If this is not enough by way of wheels to get some built please let us know what a minimum run might be and if at that time a swag regarding cost were available that might help firm things up a lot and maybe shake a couple more takers out of the woods.

Thanks again for looking into it :cheers:
 
Mike,

I'll go back and over this thread and make notes of the correct vehicles/models and the PN for the wheel. Hopefully there will be a model that was available here in Japan so they might not ask me to provide the registration info./copy to prove that the vehicle in question is registered in Japan.

We've got about a week before Japan enters roughly 2 weeks of the year-end/New Year holiday period. Hopefully we'll have some answers sometime next week!
 
So, I've been trying to get my stuff ready to take to Toyota, but wanted to have all the info. I could with me.

The ideal situation would be to have had a JDM truck/cruiser that had the wheel from the factory, but I just could not get one to show up from my EPC/ToyoDIY.

So, I thought the next best thing would be to get the RHD cruiser info.
So I did a search under a '73 cruiser and the vehicle info that had the 42601-60040 show up was:

FJ40, FJ40-B, FJ40-C, FJ40-V, FJ40V-C, FJ43, FJ43-B, FJ43-C, FJ45P-B, FJ55V, FJ55V-B, HJ45P-B, FJ45LP-B (LHD).

Not sure if these would be sufficient for me to have, along with the pics of the actual wheel, etc... to present our case with Toyota, but anyway...

I was hoping to have something like the info. on my 80 series, "HDJ81V-RNMEX/S-HDJ81V", but maybe it's just that things used to be a lot more simple back in the olden days...

However, if you have more detailed/accurate vehicle info. for me to take with on the vehicles that had this wheel, again RHD might give us a better chance, but I just don't know, I would appreciate it very much if you could either post or PM me with them (RHD or otherwise!).

THANKS!!
 
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Mot, I'm sending you a PM with some info you may be able to use also, another development in this venture if you will.
 
Thanks for the PM!

I just came back from Toyota after talking to my contact about the whole process.

She gave me the sheet that needs to be sent to Toyota and then to the manufacturer of the wheel, listing the PN, what it is, quantity needed, why it was discontinued, the vehicle model, date of manufacture, grade, vehicle type (similar to what I had listed of my own truck), and the frame number, as well as why I want them re-manufactured.

So, as I've mentioned/requested earlier, in order for me to take this further with Toyota I WILL need the specific vehicle info. listed above. From talking to her, I don't think it matters whether it's RHD or LHD. She said that she'll have to enter the vehicle info. and show it to Toyota (HQ) that those wheels are, indeed, for that vehicle.

The sheet also has some disclaimers...:

-Filling out the request does not mean that the part will be re-manufactured.
-It could take as long as 3-6 months since the order gets placed.
-The requested part has already been discontinued. There are cases that the part(s) will have to be manufactured in a similar way to being hand made, therefore not turning out exactly like the original part.
-Be sure that the above points have been disclosed to the customer and they'll accept these conditions.

So, if any of you want to take it to the next step, please provide me with the vehicle info!

THANKS and good luck to us!!

Mot
 
I have a 4/73 FJ-40, I can give the vin to you. But, does it have to be JDM vin, or can it be any market vin.

Looking at ToyoDIY, I see the rim listed for about any 4X series, but only for General and Europe market vehicles.

If my vin and model info will work, I'll send it to you. Peter's Vin may be better, it would be correct, if that is an original Europe market 73 FJ-45 he has, it would have came with those rims. Comments Peter?

Did she mention prices, or price range on these. May not be worth it if each rims is 2-300 dollars apeice after a special run, except to a real restoration purist. You can get 16" rims for far cheaper, just won't have the OE look.
 
MoCoNative said:
I have a 4/73 FJ-40, I can give the vin to you. But, does it have to be JDM vin, or can it be any market vin.

a)Looking at ToyoDIY, I see the rim listed for about any 4X series, but only for General and Europe market vehicles.

b)If my vin and model info will work, I'll send it to you. Peter's Vin may be better, it would be correct, if that is an original Europe market 73 FJ-45 he has, it would have came with those rims. Comments Peter?
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a) because the US-market had 15 rims
other markets all had 16 rims.

b) a vin isn`t necessary, but the japanes girl doesn`t know that :D

My 45 is/was a original car for the european market.

Cheers
Peter
 
Hey Mot, do you still need any info from us?

Any updates on this, did you bring this nice Toyota girl some flowers, a tasty treat, a bribe, anything to make this happen:)
 
MoCoNative said:
Hey Mot, do you still need any info from us?

Any updates on this, did you bring this nice Toyota girl some flowers, a tasty treat, a bribe, anything to make this happen:)
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:D

It's not just this girl, but if you go to any Toyota Parts they're most likely to ask you for the same information. You might not required to provide that kind of information in other countries but that's just the way it is here.

And since I could not obtain what was required on my own or even from folks reading this thread (and I was irritated because of it) I didn't want to post to express my frustration (You know, the "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" thing).

I figured if any of you (as in folks interested in obtaining the wheels) wanted to give me that information that I must provide, you would get it for me one way (Of their own vehicles that came with those wheel originally) or another (Convincing people who have that info. to fess it up to help out those in need), etc...

If there's anything more I can do from my end, please let me know.
But at this time w/o the info. that I had mentioned being made available to me to present to Toyota there's nothing more I can do about it. Unfortunately, buying flowers, chocolates, or asking her out on a date would not eliminate my need to get the vehicle info. ;)
 
mot said:
Thanks for the PM!

I just came back from Toyota after talking to my contact about the whole process.

She gave me the sheet that needs to be sent to Toyota and then to the manufacturer of the wheel, listing the PN, what it is, quantity needed, why it was discontinued, the vehicle model, date of manufacture, grade, vehicle type (similar to what I had listed of my own truck), and the frame number, as well as why I want them re-manufactured.

So, as I've mentioned/requested earlier, in order for me to take this further with Toyota I WILL need the specific vehicle info. listed above. From talking to her, I don't think it matters whether it's RHD or LHD. She said that she'll have to enter the vehicle info. and show it to Toyota (HQ) that those wheels are, indeed, for that vehicle.

The sheet also has some disclaimers...:

-Filling out the request does not mean that the part will be re-manufactured.
-It could take as long as 3-6 months since the order gets placed.
-The requested part has already been discontinued. There are cases that the part(s) will have to be manufactured in a similar way to being hand made, therefore not turning out exactly like the original part.
-Be sure that the above points have been disclosed to the customer and they'll accept these conditions.

So, if any of you want to take it to the next step, please provide me with the vehicle info!

THANKS and good luck to us!!

Mot
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"why it was discontinued"

That's a good question. But I think Toyota would have to answer that one.


"the vehicle model, date of manufacture, grade, vehicle type (similar to what I had listed of my own truck), and the frame number, as well as why I want them re-manufactured."


"show it to Toyota (HQ) that those wheels are, indeed, for that vehicle."

Getting that information is that isn't easy for us in the US. Most of our second hand imports come from Australia where they mainly have 16" split rims which are pretty easy to get. Plus my guess that having to have the VIN for the vehicle they might limit a order to a total of five wheels for each VIN.


At this point I agree with you Mot it doesn't seem make any sense to do anything else unless someone with the correct information steps up and only then if Toyota will let you make a single order for as many as you want off that one VIN. :meh:
 
Peter,

If you posted the info. for me, you could have PM-ed me, but I've jotted it down already so you can delete your post already. ;)

Sorry for troubling you more and also being dense, but what is your vehicle's model number/type? FJ45##?

Anyway, I've got the frame/VIN info. from another member who PM-ed me, but his happened to have 8 digits after "FJ" and yours seems to have 7. Just wanted to make sure that I wasn't a missing a digit somewhere (Not trying to insult you here though!)

Anyway, thanks for posting the info. :)

I'm starting on a new job Monday so I probably won't be able to contact Toyota until Sat. at the earliest to turn in the info./request.

I don't know if Toyota will come through with this request, but if the price is going to be close to what it was before it was discontinued I'm imagining your cost would be somewhere around $135-ish/wheel (At the current exchange rate. Give or take a few), plus shipping, which was around $500 for five wheels, to the US (slowboat, 2-3 months).

So I would like to know how many wheels I should be asking them to make based on the numbers above. If anyone's interested in getting a set of five, you'd have to spend about $1,175 when everything is said and done.

I'm not saying that they'll make them and that they'll make as many as we request them, but I woul dlike to have a fairly solid number. I believe after I make the request they will get back to me and tell us how much exactly it will going to cost before we have to commit.

Anyway, let me know if anyone's really serious about getting them after seeing the numbers!

Thanks again, Peter!

Mot
 
mot said:
Peter,

a)but what is your vehicle's model number/type? FJ45##?

b)Anyway, I've got the frame/VIN info. from another member who PM-ed me, but his happened to have 8 digits after "FJ" and yours seems to have 7. Just wanted to make sure that I wasn't a missing a digit somewhere (Not trying to insult you here though!)

Mot
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a) all we have on our registration here in Germany is:
Manufacture : TOYOTA
TYP : FJ45- LP

b) only 7 numbers after "FJ" , have it compared again
 
.... they are not more available in Germany too
A friend tried to get them some days ago .
Answer: They are discontinued !

What I don`t understand I measured a rim ( a year ago I think) posted ( order code included) it and nobody bought them .
Your USA Toyota dealers could get them still new last year.
No big effort necessary for him only an order in Japan ( needs two minutes on the computer) and Toyota- Japan would have delivered these rims in 2 or 3 weeks.
but now it`s toooooooooooo late ;)
 
a.greenspan said:
a) all we have on our registration here in Germany is:
Manufacture : TOYOTA
TYP : FJ45- LP

b) only 7 numbers after "FJ" , have it compared again
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Might check the VIN on the fender or cowl depending on where they mounted it. Here in the US the FJ40 (only 40 series we got in the US in 73:crybaby:) had it on the right fender. Probably find a B on the end of the type. The FJ45LP was the short wheel base pickup. The B was added to show it was a long base pickup.

The eight digit was needed once the production number hit the 99,999. They did the same with the 40 series. The other one Mot has was probably a later model.

Also check the door pillar plate, might also have more info there. I can't open the driver's door on my 73 soft top where it's stored to see what other information is there beside production date:cheers:
 
Living in the Past said:
Might check the VIN on the fender or cowl depending on where they mounted it. Here in the US the FJ40 (only 40 series we got in the US in 73:crybaby:) had it on the right fender. Probably find a B on the end of the type. The FJ45LP was the short wheel base pickup. The B was added to show it was a long base pickup.

b)The eight digit was needed once the production number hit the 99,999. They did the same with the 40 series. The other one Mot has was probably a later model.

c)Also check the door pillar plate, might also have more info there. I can't open the driver's door on my 73 soft top where it's stored to see what other information is there beside production date:cheers:
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I begin with the last ;)
c)no door pillar plate on my 45, also don`t have such a plate on the BJ43

b) ok
a) what I submitted was/ is the VIN on the frame. This Frame-VIN only "counts" for registration in Germany.
Short wheel based pickups never sold in Europe, that might be the reason they "forgotten" the B* in the first registration in Denmark.
The german registration authority copied this former danish registration in my new registration paper, that`s all I can say.( I`m the second owner of the truck)
Can`t read anything on my fender plate, it`s terrible srcatched, it´s mounted behind the battery.
Sayonara ;)
Peter


* Mot can put the B behind, for this japanes girl ;)
 
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