13b-t To Garrett

[lumpy70]

Sorry it took so long, but here are some pictures of my turbo install using a
13B-T manifold and a Garrett turbo.
http://gallery.prairiedogparts.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album16

VERY happy with the results.

And yes, that is a coffee can used as a heat shield.

Craig.

 

[tlcruiserman]

I see you found the info. yes indeed the ct26 is a toyota name for the turbo on the 13b-t, as well as the supra and mr2. the turbo on the 2l-t is called a ct20.

the supra shares the same inlet as the 13b-t, but the mr2 has a dual entry. some say there is a single entry model. I talked to lot of turbo shops and they say the supra is the only one.

But you will not find a supra turbo to bolt onto a 13b-t manifold. just ain't gonna happen. there is no junkyard ones, if you do find one, expect to pay 2000 min to overhaul it..... and from what I have heard it might be too large for 3b. maybe a 2h would be ok.

other option, buy a turbonectics ct26 exhaust housing that bolts up to the manifold. or buy an adapter and find a suitable garrett.

the size range on garretts is giant. so you got lots of tailoring room.

I also did not want to weld onto the manifold. otherwise I limit my options later down the road.

I found this adapter already made in a shop down south. so I didn't have to get iit made.

The adapter was designed for the supra guys so they could switch to garretts.

Looks good so far BB,

I have a CT-26 on a 3B and it is not too big, it works fine. I am not sure why you think it might be too big, the 13B-T engine is the same size as the 3B just DI instead of IDI and a little lower compression. Anyway I can tell you it works great. I will say that I think my 3B with AXT (which has garrett) has a little more kick to it but that could just be differences in the actual trucks.

Cheers,

Michael

 

[lowenbrau]

Looks good so far BB,

I have a CT-26 on a 3B and it is not too big, it works fine. I am not sure why you think it might be too big, the 13B-T engine is the same size as the 3B just DI instead of IDI and a little lower compression. Anyway I can tell you it works great. I will say that I think my 3B with AXT (which has garrett) has a little more kick to it but that could just be differences in the actual trucks.

Cheers,

Michael

Your CT26 is from a 13BT isn't it? That is not the same as a Supra one which won't likely spool very well under 1800RPM. I have one that I was reservng for my 2H but now the boys are giving me evil ideas about using it on a 13BT and adding a supercharger for the off idle boost. Time will tell.

 

[fjbj40]

the turbo with the AXT kit I saw has the same A/R #'s as the volvo b230ft engines and they are .42ex .48comp.
The ford engine Brownbear is talking about is a 2.3 liter . I had a Merkur . Good turbo , cheap and easy to rebuild yourself .
.60 on comp. side is ok, should spool up nicely and the charge air temp will not be to hot at 13 psi...the trick is having a good a/r on the turbine side and .48 should work well, it is a good compromise , does not spool up real quick and chock out at higher load/rpms.

Daryl

 

[Greg_B]

I have a CT-26 on a 3B and it is not too big, it works fine. Michael

Hello Micheal! As Bruce is alluding, the CT-26 is simply the housing. The CT-26 housing is used in many Toyota applications and employ different ratios with the turbines. At least, that is the way I understand it. I am not sure if all CT-26's uses bushings, or if some have bearings. Does the Garret in the AXT kit use bearings?

Nice prototyping on the installs using the 13BT manifold guys.

hth's

gb

 

[crushers]

Greg,
do you have any mre 13BT manifolds in stock either used or new?

 

[Greg_B]

Nope, sorry Wayne. Last one for now went out the door yesterday. Will have more as some point.

gb

 

[fjbj40]

Hello Micheal! As Bruce is alluding, the CT-26 is simply the housing. The CT-26 housing is used in many Toyota applications and employ different ratios with the turbines. At least, that is the way I understand it. I am not sure if all CT-26's uses bushings, or if some have bearings. Does the Garret in the AXT kit use bearings?

Nice prototyping on the installs using the 13BT manifold guys.

hth's

gb

I doubt any ct26 turbos have bearings ( I assume you guys are talking ball bearings ) . Most turbo's out there have bushing type bearings...the ball bearing turbos are quite expensive and the people I have talked to concerning them say they are not worth the money . I think it is one of those more hype and bling bling magazine things .

Daryl

 

[brownbear]

Nope, sorry Wayne. Last one for now went out the door yesterday. Will have more as some point.

gb

Anyone who buys one and needs an adapter to Garrett just Pm me. I will give the details were to buy.

Here's the custom turbo to intake pipe I made, with welded on boost gauge bung.

I used flat steel to make a flange and exhaust pipe and welded it up.

Should flow nice. I was able to use the factory elbow at the butterfly so this makes it look stock.

I have afew more details to work over, then I will do a small write up.

I don't think the turbo is too big. Lumpy 70 figures it is.

But time will tell when I run it. Still some time away.........

 

[Eric Winkworth]

you should make a few of these parts up in a kit or something, I know I would be interested, I can't wait to see it all done, looks like it is gonna be really nice.

cheers

 

[brownbear]

you should make a few of these parts up in a kit or something, I know I would be interested, I can't wait to see it all done, looks like it is gonna be really nice.

cheers

thanks,
first one first.

Junkyard kits, supply your own turbo. hey not a bad idea.I put 5 hours of labour into that pipe, so maybe at 50 an hr. okay want to buy 10! lol

I think buying a turbo with out a flange might be more practical. the hose clamp on would be better.

oh well live and learn.........

 

[Behemoth60]

Wondering how you get aroung the turbo lag if you go big with the turbo?

Curious... is turbo lag a problem?

Peter Straub

 

[fjbj40]

hahahahaha .....how true....since when is lag a issue in a BJ when it comes to acceleration !

Daryl

 

[Eric Winkworth]

lol, come on I think I might be able to beat someone running!

 

[brownbear]

Curious... is turbo lag a problem?

Peter Straub

anything better is a 100% improvement.

since my main concern is driving up large hills on the highway, no lag is not of concern, it will be fully spooled at highway speed.

I am not expecting a low end quick spool for acceleration.

I just want sustained power on the highway at 100.

Mountains are a time killer. when your average climb is a 60 km, it takes forever to get anywhere. So I am aiming for a climb at 80 or so.

Might have to re gear as well. have to see.....

 

[tlcruiserman]

Hello Micheal! As Bruce is alluding, the CT-26 is simply the housing. The CT-26 housing is used in many Toyota applications and employ different ratios with the turbines. At least, that is the way I understand it. I am not sure if all CT-26's uses bushings, or if some have bearings. Does the Garret in the AXT kit use bearings?

Nice prototyping on the installs using the 13BT manifold guys.

hth's

gb

I am not sure if the AXT has ball bearings but I doubt it. I was just looking at a turbo glide with garret turbo on it and it looks like it is a .60 on the inlet side.

Greg, do you guys have any 13BT intake hoses from turbo to Intake manifold?

cheers,

Michael

 

[Greg_B]

I am not sure if the AXT has ball bearings but I doubt it. I was just looking at a turbo glide with garret turbo on it and it looks like it is a .60 on the inlet side.

Greg, do you guys have any 13BT intake hoses from turbo to Intake manifold?

cheers,

Michael

Yes, shoot an e-mail to Sheldon at info@gscruiserparts.com

hth's

gb

 

[hks3sgte]

I was wondering if anyone has used the CT20B from the newer generation 3S-GTE engine? They are ceramic turbines, spool faster and have very good top-end power. they are capable of 300HP with the 2.0L 3S-GTE so it might be a better candidate for turbocharging a diesel engine...

 

[cruiser_guy]

Does the Garret in the AXT kit use bearings?

Sleeve bearings only. That's what I got in the package of replaced parts on my AXT when it got rebuilt this past summer due to an exhaust leak. The turbo was still fine but the leak was starting to cook the paint on the hood!

 

[brownbear]

re-surrected my old thread....