I must have missed the pole, but I am in for the OEM version. As the comment above, my nav crapping out on me is the only real concern I have with my LX. I want to keep it forever and if you can make this delete happen that would be wonderful.
100 Series NAV Delete – True Standalone HVAC Solution (OEM+)
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I'm all for the simple and effective route that looks factory. Dials > Push Buttons. I would like to still have good indicator lights. This is what I would model the finished product to look like with the capability to throw a DiN unit above it.
Thank you for all your hard work on this project!
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mac2nite
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Excited to see the traction on this, I am like many others in that the nav display screen is my least favorite of my LX470.
I just upgraded my wife’s 2011 Highlander with a cheapie Rongji double din with good reviews. All in with harnesses for keeping OEM rear camera, upgraded phone mic, and additional USB ports, about $350. The upgrade was easy, and is definitely worth more to me in my LX. Kept shaking my head working on it as the HVAC separate from the screen in the Highlander just makes sense, and I hate that it isn’t so in the LX.
I am a knobs and buttons guy, doesn’t have to match or even be all that fancy for me. The real tech I appreciate is just being able to use wireless CarPlay.
I’d even be willing to do it kickstarter style and pay for a place in line. I have always had good luck with dudes in forums putting in the work. Really appreciate your effort on this @Anarchy
I just upgraded my wife’s 2011 Highlander with a cheapie Rongji double din with good reviews. All in with harnesses for keeping OEM rear camera, upgraded phone mic, and additional USB ports, about $350. The upgrade was easy, and is definitely worth more to me in my LX. Kept shaking my head working on it as the HVAC separate from the screen in the Highlander just makes sense, and I hate that it isn’t so in the LX.
I am a knobs and buttons guy, doesn’t have to match or even be all that fancy for me. The real tech I appreciate is just being able to use wireless CarPlay.
I’d even be willing to do it kickstarter style and pay for a place in line. I have always had good luck with dudes in forums putting in the work. Really appreciate your effort on this @Anarchy
Hello Anarchy,
Thank you for doing this.
I voted OEM.
Thought #1.
Automatic Climate Control is great (i.e. the Auto button).
I love to set it and forget it.
My 2003 LX has Automatic controls.
My 2016 Tundra does not.
Could I live without the "Auto" button. Maybe, but I'd prefer not to.
Would I be much more motivated to purchase if it has the "Auto" button? Yes.
Thought #2.
Is there a Toyota that they made a LOT of, that has the layout you (we...) are looking for?
Simple and relatively compact HVAC Only controls (preferably with the Automatic Climate Control...) that would be OEM Toyota (Reliable...) and look like / match our other LC / LX buttons / controls.
RAV4, Camry, etc.
Potentially available new, but plentiful on eBay, in Junkyards, etc.
As long as it's a bit smaller than the space we have to work with, a custom bezel could be created to fit it into the LX / LC.
Your solution would be bezel, the wiring, and "black box" that enables the "Other Toyota HVAC Controls" to control our HVAC.
Thank you again for your effort.
Tom
Thank you for doing this.
I voted OEM.
Thought #1.
Automatic Climate Control is great (i.e. the Auto button).
I love to set it and forget it.
My 2003 LX has Automatic controls.
My 2016 Tundra does not.
Could I live without the "Auto" button. Maybe, but I'd prefer not to.
Would I be much more motivated to purchase if it has the "Auto" button? Yes.
Thought #2.
Is there a Toyota that they made a LOT of, that has the layout you (we...) are looking for?
Simple and relatively compact HVAC Only controls (preferably with the Automatic Climate Control...) that would be OEM Toyota (Reliable...) and look like / match our other LC / LX buttons / controls.
RAV4, Camry, etc.
Potentially available new, but plentiful on eBay, in Junkyards, etc.
As long as it's a bit smaller than the space we have to work with, a custom bezel could be created to fit it into the LX / LC.
Your solution would be bezel, the wiring, and "black box" that enables the "Other Toyota HVAC Controls" to control our HVAC.
Thank you again for your effort.
Tom
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Question.. In converting to Non-Nav.. if One has all the parts, biggest challenge is the wiring harness and wiring. Finding all the little adapters and such. I have seen that the aftermarket android items sell for as little as $200. Why not just contact the supplier of the Tesla style or other. and buy their wiring harness. with pigtails and that harness would likely save time? .. or if the $200 eBay unit has the harness and connectors it is worth it to save time from piecing one together.. thoughts?
I mentioned this in my previous post but I ended up buying one for a home project. Here is the dial I suggested (M5stack Dial V1.1). It's got a rotary encoder w/ a single click options, capacitive touchscreen and runs on 5-36v. Pretty straight forward panel mount. Looks like it could be changed out from orange trim as well. I need to take it apart. It supports wifi and bluetooth so technically could be updated for future improvements. It's got 2 outputs depending on what it actually needs to interface with. Happy to do some testing & fabricating if you need a handle (just don't ask me to code without Claude).
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[ narrow status / mode display strip ]
[ TEMP KNOB / push AUTO ] [ A/C ] [ RECIRC ] [ DEFROST ] [ MODE ] [ FAN KNOB / push OFF ]OEM Cassette -> Concept HVAC Control Panel
Looks great. I'm sure you're aware of the design differences between the Land Cruiser and Lx470. Is the concept to make one control panel and then have a trim plate that would also allow OEM fitment into land cruisers as well? Or have 2 different faceplates?
Here is a factory non nav in a land cruiser. The side panels with vents are a different layout than lx470.
Wow! Is that level of quality in reach for this project?
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imperium
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One thing I'd love to see added is an off button. Having the ability to shut everything off before I turn off the car with just one button is very convenient.
So, just to be clear, when this thing is complete, will it be "plug and play" including the trim pieces? Will someone need a Grom or Beatsonic adapter to connect to the ML stereo wiring? I'm not sure I understand how all of this will work. Also, can you give any sort of ballpark idea how long this is going to take? I need to do something other than the stock set up- I need to get some sort of monitor/carplay soon, and depending upon how long this process is going to take will determine what my next move it. Ultimately, if this works out, I will buy it anyway, but I want to make sure what I buy now may be compatible with your finished product.
I'm late to the thread as usual. Quickly skimming, so not fully visualizing your intended end state physically.
"Would you rather have something with more features, or something simple that just never glitches?" Simple, never glitches. I'd accept more features, so long as they're intuitive to use.
"How important is it to you that it feels like it could have come from the factory?" Not. See answer above.
My wife hates the 2004 LC NAV HVAC controls. I'd like knobs and the ability to install (or have installed) an aftermarket stereo.
I'm a plug and play guy - not interested in spending lots of time/brains installing. I have 10 grandkids, so I prefer spending my time there.
I am quite pleased that you're doing this.
"Would you rather have something with more features, or something simple that just never glitches?" Simple, never glitches. I'd accept more features, so long as they're intuitive to use.
"How important is it to you that it feels like it could have come from the factory?" Not. See answer above.
My wife hates the 2004 LC NAV HVAC controls. I'd like knobs and the ability to install (or have installed) an aftermarket stereo.
I'm a plug and play guy - not interested in spending lots of time/brains installing. I have 10 grandkids, so I prefer spending my time there.
I am quite pleased that you're doing this.
very , very interested in this for my 2004. subscribed to the thread in anticipation !
These are the controls I have in my 2004 HDJ. They are really non-intuitive to use, and you have to look at that tiny display to see the mode. The buttons are also not durable, and keeps failing. It's the worst hvac controls in any car I've had.
HVAC system triple knob was always my favorite. Temp, Speed, air location on three different knobs, tried and true in almost every work truck I’ve driven, I understand some of those systems are vacuum sensors though.
IMO temp and speed should be dials, buttons can work for the location settings. Dials were always the easiest for me to operate while driving, reach find and spin, no button hunting.
IMO temp and speed should be dials, buttons can work for the location settings. Dials were always the easiest for me to operate while driving, reach find and spin, no button hunting.
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I know there’s still a lot of questions...going to keep holding off on most of those for now.
The project has crossed an important point.
The recent work has been about proving that behavior holds up under real conditions.
That includes:
One of the more important takeaways is that the system doesn’t need to fight the vehicle to work, it can operate cleanly alongside the existing control logic. That simplifies the architecture quite a bit, but it also means everything has to be very deliberate in how it interacts.
The focus now shifts to turning this into hardware:
If I had to put a number on it.. 75% complete overall
The remaining work is almost entirely execution.
The project has crossed an important point.
The recent work has been about proving that behavior holds up under real conditions.
That includes:
- Power ramp and brownout scenarios
- Key cycling and crank events
- Long idle and wake recovery
- Verifying no unintended activity on the network during any of the above
One of the more important takeaways is that the system doesn’t need to fight the vehicle to work, it can operate cleanly alongside the existing control logic. That simplifies the architecture quite a bit, but it also means everything has to be very deliberate in how it interacts.
The focus now shifts to turning this into hardware:
- Control layout is being locked
- System architecture and interfaces are being finalized
- PCB design and bring-up prep is underway
If I had to put a number on it.. 75% complete overall
The remaining work is almost entirely execution.
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