10,000 Mile Oil Changes Damaging Motors

[ElJayBird]

This was interesting to watch. I started doing 10k oil changes around 2019 at the advice of Toyota service. About 2 years later the truck developed the Tundra tick and I’ve been convinced it was due to the extended intervals. The ports get gunked up, blocking the flow of oil and preventing the tensioner from moving freely.

 

[Supra Turbo]

Yeah, I stick to 3k and 5k mile intervals for our Toyota vehicles, or every 6 months if the vehicle is not driven much.

 

[bloc]

This was interesting to watch. I started doing 10k oil changes around 2019 at the advice of Toyota service. About 2 years later the truck developed the Tundra tick and I’ve been convinced it was due to the extended intervals. The ports get gunked up, blocking the flow of oil and preventing the tensioner from moving freely.

Mine has had oil changes every 5k since it was new and had plenty of tundra tick.

The real issue is poorly designed tensioners.

Not defending 10k changes, at all. But tundra tick doesn't need that help to develop.

 

[bj70bc]

in canada its 10k km oil change max
6500miles

 

[04UZJ100]

Mine has had oil changes every 5k since it was new and had plenty of tundra tick.

The real issue is poorly designed tensioners.

Not defending 10k changes, at all. But tundra tick doesn't need that help to develop.

I’ll say it again because I never thought it would be the case but swapping the LX over to HPL oil has totally eliminated it.

 

[ElJayBird]

I’ll say it again because I never thought it would be the case but swapping the LX over to HPL oil has totally eliminated it.

Helluva lot cheaper than my fix, which was dropping off with Toyota to tear the motor apart to replace the tensioner.

 

[04UZJ100]

Helluva lot cheaper than my fix, which was dropping off with Toyota to tear the motor apart to replace the tensioner.

It’s NOT a mechanical issue. TCCN literally says as much.

 

[ElJayBird]

It’s NOT a mechanical issue. TCCN literally says as much.

I’ll be sure and add that to the memo line on the check.

 

[bloc]

It’s NOT a mechanical issue. TCCN literally says as much.

And? The dude has been incorrect on at least a couple things.

Toyota updated the relevant part, which isn't definitive but it suggests there could have been an issue. Or at least a contributing factor.

All beside the point that if we need to run a boutique oil to avoid the issue, to any reasonable person that could be seen a design flaw on toyota's part.

 

[GrouchyTech]

5K max. 10K no way.

 

[gasman4u]

It’s NOT a mechanical issue. TCCN literally says as much.

So it is said...so it is written. All hail his name...

 

[stonepa]

This was interesting to watch. I started doing 10k oil changes around 2019 at the advice of Toyota service. About 2 years later the truck developed the Tundra tick and I’ve been convinced it was due to the extended intervals. The ports get gunked up, blocking the flow of oil and preventing the tensioner from moving freely.

Interesting- was this an experienced service manager? I personally do oil changes every 4-5k miles.

 

[ElJayBird]

Interesting- was this an experienced service manager? I personally do oil changes every 4-5k miles.

I didn’t look at his resume but in hindsight sight, probably not. It was Wilsonville Toyota in Oregon

 

[mceagle555]

I'm a firm believer that one of the largest ROI as a car owner is learning to do your own oil changes.

1. Invest in good quality oil changing tools (sockets, ratchet, Toyota canister oil filter socket, oil pan, ramps) : $100-$150
2. Buy OEM oil filter: $5-$10
3. Buy good quality synthetic oil (Valvoline Restore & Protect, Penzoil, Kirkland synthetic, etc...): $40-$50

One time upfront cost of $100-$150 and then only $50/oil change.

 

[Mrtwooooo]

I watched the video the other day and attempted to maybe try and figure out what other countries... like Japan... recommended for oil change intervals and other service like coolant changes.

 

[04UZJ100]

I watched the video the other day and attempted to maybe try and figure out what other countries... like Japan... recommended for oil change intervals and other service like coolant changes.

Just read the “severe service” intervals for everything. That’s basically what was recommended maintenance was until the EPA and manufacturers reduced maintenance requirements under various Guises.

 

[Artie]

My max OCI is 6500 miles, I usually get two in a year, one just before that 6500 and the other well below it. This is based on our travel schedule with one trip running 5-6000 miles and I change the oil right after we’re back home, the other change is before that big trip regardless of how many miles I’m at. I use Amsoil and get a blackstone analysis each oil change. According to Blackstone, I’m good to go 8500 miles based on the TBN numbers on my longest intervals. There is zero chance I’m doing that. However, it does give me some wiggle room on a longer trip should I need it.

 

[Underdog]

I typically keep vehicles a long time and always do 5k mile changes. I feel its very important. I don't believe the manufacturers that recommend 10k mile changes. Funny but when i bought my Tundra in 2019 Toyota had a promotion for free maintenace for 25k miles. Signs all over the dealership and it sounds like such a great thing. But it was only 2 oil changes and they'd check your tire preasure and refill the window washer fluid. There's no other maintenance by 25k miles and they wouldnt do the oil more than twice so i just did it myself. I have 2 Mercedes at 185k and 205k miles and four Toyotas at 85k (200 LC), 110k (Tundra), 215k (Tacoma), and 385k (80 LC) miles.

 

[Sandroad]

I typically keep vehicles a long time and always do 5k mile changes. I feel its very important. I don't believe the manufacturers that recommend 10k mile changes. Funny but when i bought my Tundra in 2019 Toyota had a promotion for free maintenace for 25k miles. Signs all over the dealership and it sounds like such a great thing. But it was only 2 oil changes and they'd check your tire preasure and refill the window washer fluid. There's no other maintenance by 25k miles and they wouldnt do the oil more than twice so i just did it myself. I have 2 Mercedes at 185k and 205k miles and four Toyotas at 85k (200 LC), 110k (Tundra), 215k (Tacoma), and 385k (80 LC) miles.

For those free services on the 200 LC, they are also supposed to change the engine air filter and break the cabin filter mechanism while changing that filter in the first 25K miles. At least that’s what they did for mine.

 

[bicycleagent003]

Yeah, I stick to 3k and 5k mile intervals for our Toyota vehicles, or every 6 months if the vehicle is not driven much.

I've wondered about OCI in my 80 Series, which I only drive about 4K miles a year. What's the conventional Mud OCD thinking on that? I'm with the 5K mile OCI approach, but that's less than once a year for me.