Hmmmm. Good point, buddy, on the low volume of the fog lamp housings. Hadn't considered that. So did Stern say to avoid even the 9012's in the fog lamps? Or was it to just avoid the high beam HIR for the fogs? Thanks for the two cents!
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Hmmmm. Good point, buddy, on the low volume of the fog lamp housings. Hadn't considered that. So did Stern say to avoid even the 9012's in the fog lamps? Or was it to just avoid the high beam HIR for the fogs? Thanks for the two cents!
I can see possible issues with the 9011's in the fog lamps. Any known issues with them in place of the lows?
In previous posts I've mentioned that I ran them in the lows of my 80 series and there wasn't any issue at all. Requires a little more modification to the plug of the 9011 bulb to run in the low beam bulb. And the 100 series headlamp assembly is even larger than the series, so I wouldn't imagine a problem arising at all. I would love to get them to work in the fog lamps and source some type of yellow cover for the fog lamp so that it would be useful for snow and fog. I drive in the dark while snowing somewhat regularly here in Utah.
FWIW, my total cost on the NB+ for3 pairs and the promo code was about half the $384.OO. Of course who knows when they'll show up!
Now this is going to be interesting; Elijah with six 9011 HIR vs. oftpiste with six ONB Unlimited direct replacement bulbs.
Pre install comparison:
Cost wise Elijah takes the lead $108 list, but is slowed with minor modification for fitment.
Easy of install oftpiste moves out at a quicker pace, and with a much lighter wallet $384 list.
Can't wait to see the pictures, some guidelines as to how taken would be helpful for comparison, any ideas?
I had not taken any measurements, that is a surprise given the wire gauge used for the current involved. I may have to check it. I assume you measured with the bulbs loading the circuit?
Those Osrams, not being an HIR, produce their higher output by over driving a smaller filament so you get more light output at the DOT limited wattage. The trade off is short life, a halogen putting our more light than stock always makes that compromise. That is the beauty of HIR IMO, it's using the DOT limited wattage to produce more light with added technology instead of reduced life (re-using the otherwise wasted IR radiation from the filament to super-heat the filament for more output at the same input wattage without compromising filament strength and bulb life). I also have questions about running hot halogens off-road because you are taking a shorter life, more expensive bulb, with a smaller filament and taking it to the extreme vibration realm of our use.
Osram lists this new bulb with 150 hours run time v. 400 hours for their standard halogen so I'm not making this stuff up. For the price of those bulbs you get a pretty short life, carry a few stockers for spares for sure.
So yeah, HIR all the way!
Osram lists this new bulb with 150 hours run time v. 400 hours for their standard halogen so I'm not making this stuff up. For the price of those bulbs you get a pretty short life, carry a few stockers for spares for sure.
So yeah, HIR all the way!
Your assumption is correct. I was a little surprised too but the Fluke don't lie!
BTW, kudos to 2001LC for starting this thread. Very informative and helpful....although my credit card bill just went up because of it
No offense intended, but much of this has been covered in other light threads.
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Thank you to Elijah and 2001LC for clearing up my confusion earlier in the thread. I really can't wait to see what you guys come up with and can't wait to see the pics. I'm pretty interested in upgrading the lows and fogs in anticipation of the coming winter season. I usually head up to Tahoe after work when the sun is going down and when the storms are storming visibility can get pretty gnarly sometimes.
Ok, so true or false?
1. I can go to Home Depot and get 9011 and 9012 bulbs and plug them right into my 80-series high and low beam?
2. Can I do above with my 100-series?
3. Can I use the 2011 for both hi and low for the 80 and 100 without any modifications or adjustments?
1. I can go to Home Depot and get 9011 and 9012 bulbs and plug them right into my 80-series high and low beam?
2. Can I do above with my 100-series?
3. Can I use the 2011 for both hi and low for the 80 and 100 without any modifications or adjustments?
Oops, forgot to mention, these cars are both Lexus's. Lx450 and Lx470. Thanks!
1 & 2. False. You can't go to Home Depot and get them. They don't stock them. They have to be ordered from the website. For both the 80 series and the 100 series it requires you to trim a little bit of the plastic off of one of the 'tabs'. You can use nail clippers, tin snips, dykes, dremel, etc to do this. Very simple and even a '0 banana' mechanic can do this. There are pictures somewhere of what needs to be trimmed. I would guess it takes no more than 30 seconds per bulb.
3. No.
Found a good diagram from a post here on this forum showing what needs to be removed from the tab on the base of the bulb.
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I believe 2011's is typo, you mean 9011's don't you?
I can see heat causing a problem, be nice to see and IR gun test of stock vs 9011 & 9012 (new bulbs of coarse) in fog light housing as well as high & low beam.
Again 9011's not 2011's (no such bulb TIKO) and yes with minor modification as Elijah said. Provided your stock lens calls for 9005 and/or 9006. Check your owners manual headlight bulb application if stock calls for 9005’s HB3 bulb (high beam) you can use 9011 HIR, and for your 9006’s HB4 bulb (low beam) you can use 9012.
Keep in mind Elijah is kicking up the wattage by using all 9011's.
Thanks for posting that diagram of the minor mod needed to the bulb base of 9011 & 9012 to fit our stock reflective headlight housing. Maybe you could go back sometime and edit your fist post with this diagram.
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I dunno, Rob. Even when properly aimed and with correct projection , it seems there just isn't enough light out of the lows. When the highs are on, even though you can tell they project further, the light is just plain brighter. The 9012's in the lows will put your lumens or light close to the OEM highs.
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A few years back I read here about the Toshiba HIR, so I ordered two full sets of 9011 and 9012. I found that the light output is only slightly higher than on standard bulbs, and that Osram Optibright looks brighter. IMO not worth it at all.
Will now try the NightBreaker.
A few years back I read here about the Toshiba HIR, so I ordered two full sets of 9011 and 9012. I found that the light output is only slightly higher than on standard bulbs, and that Osram Optibright looks brighter. IMO not worth it at all.
Will now try the NightBreaker.
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