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TrekboxX

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Greetings fellow mud members! It has been quite a summer so far... Due to the overwhelming feedback I received on my personal drawer system build, I decided to go ahead and produce them. I had no idea how much time and money it would require- they’re just drawers, right?!!! After working all hours- paying the government, filling out the myriad of their silly forms, meetings with manufacturers, banking, setting up credit card acceptance accounts, website, business cards, suppliers, sourcing the perfect hardware (ungodly amounts of time), ordering lots of hardware that I’ll never use, designing, and re-designing, Trekboxx LLC was born. It seems like everything is taking a long time, but if I step back and look at the progress in only a few months- I feel a bit better. I’m finishing up the re-design (again) of the 100 series drawer/cargo system. I think you’ll like it. The first system that will hopefully go into production in the next month or so will be similar to the one I built for myself (check out my sig), but better with a few key extra goodies. I will then focus on expanding the product line to accommodate those folks who prefer other configurations, as well as branching out to other vehicles.

This thread is not a classifieds ad, but hopefully a place where I can interact with you all to discuss all things drawer for the 100 series. What you like, what you want, what you don’t- and why. I’ll also try to update this thread as things progress and new products are available, but any sales will go through the merchandise storefront. I’d be happy to answer any tech-related questions regarding the drawers and their use in the 100 series here. Right now the design is just for the 100 series, hence posting here, but they should be easily scalable to other platforms. As soon as the 100 series go into production I’ll turn my attention to other vehicles. Any new products will be updated in the appropriate forum.

So we have a baseline for discussion, here is a bit about the systems: The main box and drawers will be constructed of CNC cut Baltic Birch. Most components will be 3/4” (18mm) with some key areas 1/2”. I decided on wood instead of metal for a few reasons. First, the wood (especially solid birch ply) is, in my opinion, much, much stronger than sheet metal in this application. It will not deform if overloaded. Unless you break it (good luck), it will give slightly under load and return to it’s original plane. It will not fatigue, become brittle, and crack with the stresses of off road driving like metal will. It is quieter than metal when your cargo is bouncing around. It is fairly light for it’s strength and impact resistance. Very important to me was the ability of the end user to modify the system to their needs. The wood allows this. With common tools you can add holes, mounts, accessories, etc. as you wish without any special fasteners or reinforcement. All sides of every piece will be coated with Line-X. It bonds very, very well to the wood and adds a ton of protection and sound absorption. For now the colors will be black and gray, with many more color options available if there is a demand. Line-X has sampled a new, finer texture for me that I think you will love.

The cargo barrier, divider, and shelves will be optional, of course, but are a key part of the system in my opinion. They allow much more organization and safety than just drawers can provide. Being able to access the fridge when the truck is fully loaded is imperative. They allow for this and also create a necessary air gap between the fridge and your cargo. They are steel tubing and wire mesh for better airflow, and will be either powder coated or Line-X coated, depending on final pricing. The Line-X coating on the metal is just a touch less clean-looking than the powder coat, but it really cuts down on any rattling caused by loose gear. However, spraying the wire mesh creates a lot of waste and may not be cost effective. This is still to be decided.

All drawer slides will be the heavy-duty Accuride locking slides. I decided to use these instead of using the much less expensive skate bearing approach due to their smooth action, full extension (very handy), and positive rattle-free lockup.

All hardware will be high-quality. I have been approached numerous times to make a “budget” drawer system. These are not them. I can’t do it, it’s not in me. I have no problem with those that want to build/run them in their rigs, I just can’t myself nor could I stand behind a system that I wasn’t 100% confident in. I think building your own system is a great experience, and would recommend it to anyone. As long as you realize you really won’t be saving much (if any) money, but will have the satisfaction of the build. My aim is to be very competitive price wise and provide another option in the market.

I will also be looking for a supporting MUD member to volunteer their rig for the installation of a full system (at cost, of course) in return for an honest review. Good, bad, ugly- whatever you think about the system once you’ve had a chance to use it. Preferably a SF bay area local or someone visiting the area so I can be involved with the installation. Timing for this is unknown, as everything takes longer than expected, but I’m targeting this fall. PM me if you are interested so we can sort out the details.

Thank you all for getting me started on this adventure. This is a great forum, a great group of people, and I hope to serve you well.

David

A few preliminary pics- all comments welcome!

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Great looking setup David. I have a couple of questions. I anticipate installing identical side by side drawers (and a wing kit to run electronics and other accessories) and later add a fridge and slide to the top of the unit. Do you plan to offer some modular options that would allow this, or are you only selling the whole setup in your pictures? Thanks.
 
Great looking setup David. I have a couple of questions. I anticipate installing identical side by side drawers (and a wing kit to run electronics and other accessories) and later add a fridge and slide to the top of the unit. Do you plan to offer some modular options that would allow this, or are you only selling the whole setup in your pictures? Thanks.

Not selling anything yet, but yes, I plan to have a 2-drawer option, for sure. The only real issue (for me) with a two drawer system is the fridge height. Tembo Tusk's Loadspotter fits the bill nicely, as long as you can spare the space it takes up. Do you plan to use a drop slide?
 
Good to know. I will try to offer a rolling top as well. Thanks for the input!

Also, to clarify- the above design is shown without the wings and side faces- they will be available on the finished product as shown in my build thread. I'm still working on mapping them out precisely. I was thinking of including pre-cut abs covers for the face of each side, so you could easily cut them to fit whatever switches, air lines, etc. you wish. I'll post a pic when I'm back to my computer...
 
That is really nice.

Can you change the color gray to tan color?

When I drive, I use the inside rare view mirror and I don't want back to be completely block. If you can come up with something to prevent that would be great.
 
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That is really nice.

Can you change the color gray to tan color?

When I drive, I use the inside rare view mirror and I don't want back to be completely block. If you can come up with something to prevent that would be great.

The color comes from the Line-X. I don't know what colors Line-X runs, but if they run a tan you could custom order a set of these to be tan. Or you could ask for the system to come unpainted and paint them tan yourself? Or, most don't like this, you could wrap it all in the stock carpet. There are a bunch of ways to change the color, but 1407driver offers his drawers in gray and black because this is what Line-X is offering to him at the moment. If I understood the post correctly.

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Really like your drawer system man, if I had more money I'd definitely put one in my truck!
 
Here's a picture showing the wings and accessory plates on the front of the wing faces.

That's about the only way to make a low fridge work. Without the shelf any space above is almost useless as it has to be moved for fridge access. Further, things want to slide into the fridge valley when it's pulled.
 
The color comes from the Line-X. I don't know what colors Line-X runs, but if they run a tan you could custom order a set of these to be tan. Or you could ask for the system to come unpainted and paint them tan yourself? Or, most don't like this, you could wrap it all in the stock carpet. There are a bunch of ways to change the color, but 1407driver offers his drawers in gray and black because this is what Line-X is offering to him at the moment. If I understood the post correctly.

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Really like your drawer system man, if I had more money I'd definitely put one in my truck!

Thanks! Yes, you can get pretty much any color custom, but Line-X has to drain their system, etc., to change colors, so it will most likely be either a surcharge or perhaps we could do a bulk order of tan systems. I'm really excited they are working with us, they have an awesome product. The only possible problem with ordering them unfinished is that the thickness of the Line-X (~62.5 mils) has been designed into the system. However, I have also oversized all of the holes, etc, to accommodate for any variances I'm likely to encounter. So, It may still go together fine with just paint, I'm not sure. I'll know more about this topic as things progress.

Also, regarding the view out the back- it's great! Even the passenger side shelf on my system is above your sight line, but this shelf has been deleted in the final design anyways. I find that it's a bit too small to always be useful, and more often than not I wish for a few more inches underneath. Also, one of the reasons I put the fridge on the driver's side is to not block any of the view when looking over your shoulder to change lanes.
 
That's about the only way to make a low fridge work. Without the shelf any space above is almost useless as it has to be moved for fridge access. Further, things want to slide into the fridge valley when it's pulled.
Absolutely. I pull my fridge out daily, usually many times a day. I can't imagine having to unpack all around it each time! Also, If you are the type to have the fridge out day to day and just installed for trips, the full-bottom fridge slide as opposed to a "skeleton" design is handy for grocery store runs.
 
Looks awesome!

A few questions/comments:

I think a lot of folks will want a tan color option to match their interior.

Is that bottle opener tall enough to actually work? Doesn't look like I'd be able to fit my beer under there!

In round numbers, any idea on what pricing will be? How about shipping costs?

thanks!
 
Looks awesome!

A few questions/comments:

I think a lot of folks will want a tan color option to match their interior.

Is that bottle opener tall enough to actually work? Doesn't look like I'd be able to fit my beer under there!

In round numbers, any idea on what pricing will be? How about shipping costs?

thanks!

I agree on the tan. I just want to make it as cost effective as possible for those folks that want tan. I'd rather not have an upcharge if we can just get a sort of tan group buy every once in a while. It will all depend on volume. Maybe I won't sell any, who knows.

The bottle opener works when you pull the fridge out- but understand that is a picture of the system I built for myself, which is a little different than the one I'm producing. You could put a bottle opener wherever you choose!

As far as price- I don't think it's within the scope of this (tech) forum to discuss- but I wouldn't know yet anyways until I've made a few final systems. I will say that the drawers, fit kit, cargo barrier, and divider/shelf will be available as separate units and my goal is to be competitive price-wise with an arguably better product (my opinion only).
 
This looks fantastic! I'm very impressed with the design concepts and high-quality components! I'm especially fond of the fridge slide, with the trick sliding table/mini-drawer combo!
 
This looks fantastic! I'm very impressed with the design concepts and high-quality components! I'm especially fond of the fridge slide, with the trick sliding table/mini-drawer combo!

Thanks! Yeah, I'm excited about the work table/cutting surface. Btw- I haven't forgotten about you. I'm still waiting on some of that material we spoke about. I'll let you know!
 
How about those of us that want the traditional double drawer like the ARB that's all one level? I would still be interested in the connections in the wings too, but without all of the cages and shelves, unless they are removable and adjustable. Have you run any preliminary cost for the buyers? I'm looking at getting something in the near future and would be interested how much these would set me back.
 
How about those of us that want the traditional double drawer like the ARB that's all one level? I would still be interested in the connections in the wings too, but without all of the cages and shelves, unless they are removable and adjustable. Have you run any preliminary cost for the buyers? I'm looking at getting something in the near future and would be interested how much these would set me back.

As stated above, I'm not sure on cost yet but they will be competitive. Yes, I will offer a traditional double drawer system. The cargo barrier/dividers/shelves are bolt-on options. They are completely removable. The only adjustment is in the shelf- it will have 4 possible height positions, but each one will require a different height fridge barrier. This is to accommodate most of the fridges on the market to maximize useable space.

I'd like to ask, just for my info, why would you prefer a traditional double drawer system? Would you put a fridge slide on top of it or would you prefer a rolling top? Also, why do you see the need for the cage bits to be removable? Thanks for the input!
 
I use my truck for hunting too. i want to be able to throw large gear bags full of decoys, or even a deer in the back. To do so, I would need to be able to lay the second row seats down too. Also, I would use it as a sleeping platform.
Sorry that I missed the other info. I read through everything VERY quickly.
 
Ah, gotcha. The shelf, fridge barrier, and center barrier would remove with 6 bolts. The cargo barrier another 4. There is approximately 13" between the top of the drawers and the bottom of the cargo barrier. There's no center support, so you could load cargo or sleep underneath without removing it if you wished.
 
Since you asked, my 2 cents...

The way you have it sketched out, each drawer is approximately 21" wide (42" total width). I say size the fridge side for the ARB 50QT, as that is probably the most popular size. The fridge is 15" wide. Add 1.5" on each side (or whatever the minimum is) and you have 18" total width. That would give you a 24"+ wide main drawer.

Locate the fridge on the passenger side. Now, with the 24" drawer and the side wing, a person could actually sleep on the 60 side (of the 60/40 split seat).

On your personal drawers, you have a tray located in front of the fridge (closest to tailgate). I'd locate the tray behind the fridge (towards the front of the vehicle). This is a good spot for reserve beer storage. I think people want to be able to open just their lift gate and access the fridge... not the extra 2 steps of lowering the tail gate and sliding out the drawer.

I realize you have a storage shelf above the fridge. Let me think about that some more...
 

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