My point is with the terminology. You asked for weldable which is what's needed, the previous person i responded to was talking about fireline. Just as some people say cement when they mean concrete, it's two different things, and I'm just trying to keep a few people from maybe making a mistake. If one of you guys walks into a larger plumbing supply house like Ferguson, or a proper pipe stockist that resells pipe,hydrants, and structures to various underground utility companies and asked for an 8" fire line cap you'd be getting an 8" MJ ductile iron cap.