Scepter Fuel Cans in CARB states

97 FZJ80 · 01-17-08, 12:07 PM

I was in the process of ordering the Scepter MFC and my order was rejected due to their new 2008 policy that has Texas listed as a CARB state

If anyone living in the non-CARB states can help me out, I'm willing to compensate you for your time and efforts. I'm looking to purchase 10 red MFC for gas + two unleaded spouts. Thanks!

Cabrito · 01-17-08, 08:07 PM

Try Quadratech - They have a little "offroad use only" blurb that somehow allows them to ship to ca - better hurry I hear they are discontinued -

-mg

vtcruiser60 · 01-17-08, 08:41 PM

Try these folks.....for Brigade Quartermasters Ltd.

and here are some promotional codes to use with your order....10% off etc.

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97 FZJ80 · 01-19-08, 08:44 PM

Thanks for the lead!

NicksFJ40 · 01-23-08, 05:17 PM

I received two Scepter fuel cans today through Brigade Quartermaster, no hasles, took about five days.

3rd Cruiser · 01-30-08, 11:13 AM

Brigade Quartermasters is no longer shipping the scepter gas cans to Calif. Just spoke to them today. The only exception is if you are in the military.

chattfj40 · 01-30-08, 06:09 PM

Yep, apparently there's been some confusion over at BQM...they had held up my order from last week because they were under the impression that they could only sell to active duty military...in any state...Called today to check on the status and they figured out that its only the 11 CARB states they only sell to ADM....everyone else is ok...but they told me the info seems to be changing daily...

Today, they shipped mine, who knows what tomorrow will hold, get em while you can

BTW, if anyone in TX needs some, I can deliver to the Round up, PM me for details

wct49 · 01-30-08, 07:05 PM

ordered a pair today...

we will see.

Trunk Monkey · 01-30-08, 08:55 PM

Order them from Equipt (Equipt1.com). For California you'll have to have them shipped to someone close by in a neighboring state and go get them. But it's news to me that you can't ship them to Texas.

EDIT - guess you are, and a lot of others too.

CARB Protable Fuel Container & Spout Regulation

Biscuit · 01-31-08, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabrito

Try Quadratech

That's where I got mine. Two olive with the red tags for gas.

Trunk Monkey · 01-31-08, 01:43 PM

Well, just talked with Paul May, the brains behind Equipt. If you want one from him, get 'em fast. He's down to a dozen cans and won't be selling Sceptre any longer due to the CARB issues.

And, from the grapevine, it's against the law for a business to ship non-CARB cans into a CARB compliant state, but not an individual. So, you could have them shipped to your buddy in a non-compliant state and then he can ship them to you. Supposedly.

wct49 · 02-05-08, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wct49

ordered a pair today...

we will see.

got them today...
no problems

FJ40_Nut · 02-05-08, 07:53 PM

I ordered mine from Equipt and I live in CA. Fortunately I had to go to SLC for business, so I checked the three boxes like luggage and the folks from Delta did not even ask what it was. I figured it was worth a try and it worked. Used smelly gas cans would probably be a different story.

lathamb · 02-07-08, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FJ40_Nut

Used smelly gas cans would probably be a different story.

Yes, that would be super massive fines and probably jail time for illegally air transporting Dangerous Goods.

debushau · 02-11-08, 01:53 PM

Doesn't Scepter made CARB compliant cans? Is there something wrong with the CARB jerry cans?

Trunk Monkey · 02-11-08, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debushau

Doesn't Scepter made CARB compliant cans?

Nope, that's why you wont' be able get get new fuel cans in the US soon. They don't want to deal with the hassle to make them CARB compliant and I don't blame them. They will still make military cans, you might see those some up surplus in a few years.

cruzzer · 02-13-08, 06:39 AM

Blitz cans can be had in carb approved, not as nice as the some of the others but are metal..
Steve

97 FZJ80 · 02-13-08, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzzer

Blitz cans can be had in carb approved, not as nice as the some of the others but are metal..
Steve

I was checking out the CARB Blitz metal jerry cans at Home Despot this weekend. It looked like Blitz designed a CARB pour spout kit that fits their jerry can. the rest of the jerry can looked identical to the non-CARB jerry.

I wonder why Scepter doesn't design a CARB spout and included it as a part of the CARB compliant MFC package.

Trunk Monkey · 02-13-08, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 97 FZJ80

I wonder why Scepter doesn't design a CARB spout and included it as a part of the CARB compliant MFC package.

They make one:

So, the compliance issue must be bigger than the spout.

Brentbba · 02-13-08, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzzer

Blitz cans can be had in carb approved, not as nice as the some of the others but are metal..
Steve

I used to own a metal Blitz CARB compliant can I purchased here in the Republik of Kalifornia. They SUCK!!!!!!!!!! Let me repeat that it I wasn't clear the first time...They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!! Spout and seal around the can leak horribly. So much for CARB compliance. Let me repeat...They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Find a friend or mud friend in a non-carb state and and have them get the Wedco non-carb cans and spout for you and pay them to ship them privately. Much better!!!

cruzzer · 02-13-08, 02:57 PM

I've seen other carb type jerry cans with the nato style clamp on fitting.. just cant remember where,, I think it may have been on cheaper than dirt.com?
Steve

97 FZJ80 · 02-13-08, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentbba

I used to own a metal Blitz CARB compliant can I purchased here in the Republik of Kalifornia. They SUCK!!!!!!!!!! Let me repeat that it I wasn't clear the first time...They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!! Spout and seal around the can leak horribly. So much for CARB compliance. Let me repeat...They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Find a friend or mud friend in a non-carb state and and have them get the Wedco non-carb cans and spout for you and pay them to ship them privately. Much better!!!

Are the CARB can identical to the non-CARB cans?

Brentbba · 02-14-08, 09:00 AM

The spouts are different. The CARB spouts are supposed to have an anti spill feature.

On the Shitz can, the spout was fine. The seal around the can, regardless of how I threaded it, leaked horribly. I don't know if the can itself is the same or not, but they look the same.

pappy · 02-15-08, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentbba

On the Shitz can, the spout was fine. The seal around the can, regardless of how I threaded it, leaked horribly. I don't know if the can itself is the same or not, but they look the same.

Not just the Carb Schitz [sic] can. I have an old, non-Carb Blitz can and it has always leaked when pouring. I have two different spouts. One is the screw-in type, the other the compresson type. Both leak.

The high side? I love my steel NATO cans. I don't think they are Wedco, but they pour faster with almost no spill.

97 FZJ80 · 02-15-08, 05:38 PM

The septer spout empties the 5 gal can under 45 seconds. The unleaded spout empties under 1:40.

fj80toyman · 02-15-08, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey

They make one:

So, the compliance issue must be bigger than the spout.

Is part of the issue the vent on the top of the can? If it has a vent separate from the spout, it doesn't matter if it has a CARB spout, it's still out of compliance I think.

In other words, even if they added a CARB spout, the can couldn't have the vent to be sold legally. Most CARB compliant cans leak, spill, drip and mostly SUCK.

I can't find anything in Ca. worth having. I bought a steel can that looked like a blitz that had a really nice metal cap and internal spout, along with a metal-capped vent.

I bought it at Tera-Flex in Salt Lake (the old Mepco). A J**P store gave me a TLCA discount!

Dan.

Equipt · 02-19-08, 09:22 PM

The whole Scepter thing can be confusing at best. Here's what I gathered from talking to the guys as Scepter. CARB is going national. There are a dozen states that have laws similar to the Cali formula in place now. California, Texas, and most of the eastern seaboard. And there will be similar federal laws in place by 1/1/09. Keeping track of who could sell what to whom and when was really getting in the way of business.

Secondly, it wasn't just the spout. The spout that Trunk Monkey displayed was OK. There are requirements as to the chemical make up of the plastic the cans are made of. Apparently flimsy thin wall plastic is better. I don't get that part. Anyway, to comply to the law Scepter w

01-17-08, 12:07 PM	#1
97 FZJ80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Plano Texas Posts: 1,256	Scepter Fuel Cans in CARB states I was in the process of ordering the Scepter MFC and my order was rejected due to their new 2008 policy that has Texas listed as a CARB state If anyone living in the non-CARB states can help me out, I'm willing to compensate you for your time and efforts. I'm looking to purchase 10 red MFC for gas + two unleaded spouts. Thanks! __________________ 97 LX450 - Plano, TX ARB winch bumper - triple lockers - center d/l switch - reclining mid/rear seats - HIRs - map/domes/doors/cargo/tail LEDs - crystal clear lights - aux fuse block - power outlets - lots of cupholders - PriorityStart! - Optima - exact mats - Waeco fridge - Sarmonprod.com xfer case cover To be installed: OME 851/852, Bilsteins, dual batteries w/Optima D31M, JDM condensor fan, JDM fog lights. "Today is yesterday's tomorrow"

01-17-08, 08:07 PM	#2
Cabrito Terminal Lurker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SF TLCA# 16374 Posts: 126	I just go two of them shipped to me Try Quadratech - They have a little "offroad use only" blurb that somehow allows them to ship to ca - better hurry I hear they are discontinued - -mg __________________ ======================================== Michael G in SF -89 FJ62 (We call her Tomato Red) -97 Saab 900se -.- .. -.... . .-.. --.. http://home.earthlink.net/~cabrito/ It’s better to be late than on time and waiting… Last edited by Cabrito; 01-17-08 at 08:09 PM. Reason: my 100th post yippie

01-19-08, 08:44 PM	#4
97 FZJ80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Plano Texas Posts: 1,256	Thanks for the lead! __________________ 97 LX450 - Plano, TX ARB winch bumper - triple lockers - center d/l switch - reclining mid/rear seats - HIRs - map/domes/doors/cargo/tail LEDs - crystal clear lights - aux fuse block - power outlets - lots of cupholders - PriorityStart! - Optima - exact mats - Waeco fridge - Sarmonprod.com xfer case cover To be installed: OME 851/852, Bilsteins, dual batteries w/Optima D31M, JDM condensor fan, JDM fog lights. "Today is yesterday's tomorrow"

01-30-08, 11:13 AM	#6
3rd Cruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Rowland Heights, CA Posts: 88	Brigade Quartermasters is no longer shipping the scepter gas cans to Calif. Just spoke to them today. The only exception is if you are in the military. __________________ Had: 1971 FJ 40 ; 1984 FJ 60 Have: 1998 UZJ 100 OEM rear locker; ARB front locker; ARB sahara bull bar; OME lift with T-bars; Slee diff. drop, Slee step-sliders and Slee rear bumper w/tire carrier; 285 revos

01-30-08, 06:09 PM	#7
chattfj40 IH8MUD Reader Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chattanooga, TN TLCA# 4920 Posts: 517	Yep, apparently there's been some confusion over at BQM...they had held up my order from last week because they were under the impression that they could only sell to active duty military...in any state...Called today to check on the status and they figured out that its only the 11 CARB states they only sell to ADM....everyone else is ok...but they told me the info seems to be changing daily... Today, they shipped mine, who knows what tomorrow will hold, get em while you can BTW, if anyone in TX needs some, I can deliver to the Round up, PM me for details __________________ Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area --Todd Chattanooga, TN 1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist. TLCA#: 4920 STLCA Rescue Tellico Committee (SFWDA) And yep...I am White Trash

01-17-08, 08:41 PM	#3
vtcruiser60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 TLCA# 15129 Posts: 1,335	Try these folks.....for Brigade Quartermasters Ltd. and here are some promotional codes to use with your order....10% off etc. Brigade Quartermasters Coupon Codes, Brigade Quartermasters Promotions, Brigade Quartermasters Promotional Codes

01-23-08, 05:17 PM	#5
NicksFJ40 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 47	I received two Scepter fuel cans today through Brigade Quartermaster, no hasles, took about five days.

01-30-08, 07:05 PM	#8
wct49 POWERED BY AMEX Join Date: May 2005 Location: sellin tires in Mississippi TLCA# 16386 Posts: 1,065	ordered a pair today... we will see. __________________ Chris http://cottonlandcruisers.com/ 1976 FJ40, Stereo by Euclid, Team Risher Metal Tech Family Cage, Tuffy consoles, 4inch Hell Creek , 35x1250-15 Hankook MT, Saginaw Psteering, Clutchee sliders, ARB Lockers stem & stern, Orion. 1994 FJZ80, Locked, OME, ARB bumper, IPF, 31575-16 Firestone Dest. MT, snorkel, Metal Tech sliders 2005 Chevy Z71 4WD Suburban 2006 Honda Civic (DenMomDeb's sled)

01-30-08, 08:55 PM	#9
Trunk Monkey IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Salt Lake City TLCA# 11251 Posts: 2,888	Order them from Equipt (Equipt1.com). For California you'll have to have them shipped to someone close by in a neighboring state and go get them. But it's news to me that you can't ship them to Texas. EDIT - guess you are, and a lot of others too. CARB Protable Fuel Container & Spout Regulation __________________ Cory Fillmore TLCA Western Individual Representative 99 UZJ 100 Series Wheels FOR SALE-CLICK HERE

01-31-08, 01:43 PM	#11
Trunk Monkey IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Salt Lake City TLCA# 11251 Posts: 2,888	Well, just talked with Paul May, the brains behind Equipt. If you want one from him, get 'em fast. He's down to a dozen cans and won't be selling Sceptre any longer due to the CARB issues. And, from the grapevine, it's against the law for a business to ship non-CARB cans into a CARB compliant state, but not an individual. So, you could have them shipped to your buddy in a non-compliant state and then he can ship them to you. Supposedly. __________________ Cory Fillmore TLCA Western Individual Representative 99 UZJ 100 Series Wheels FOR SALE-CLICK HERE

02-05-08, 07:53 PM	#13
FJ40_Nut IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Madera, CA TLCA# 11182 Posts: 84	I ordered mine from Equipt and I live in CA. Fortunately I had to go to SLC for business, so I checked the three boxes like luggage and the folks from Delta did not even ask what it was. I figured it was worth a try and it worked. Used smelly gas cans would probably be a different story.

02-11-08, 01:53 PM	#15
debushau IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ/PA Posts: 78	Doesn't Scepter made CARB compliant cans? Is there something wrong with the CARB jerry cans? __________________ 1985 FJ60 1987 FJ60 1996 FZJ80

02-13-08, 06:39 AM	#17
cruzzer IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 105	Blitz cans can be had in carb approved, not as nice as the some of the others but are metal.. Steve

02-13-08, 02:57 PM	#21
cruzzer IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 105	I've seen other carb type jerry cans with the nato style clamp on fitting.. just cant remember where,, I think it may have been on cheaper than dirt.com? Steve

02-14-08, 09:00 AM	#23
Brentbba On the Golf Course! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA TLCA# 13420 Posts: 4,838	The spouts are different. The CARB spouts are supposed to have an anti spill feature. On the Shitz can, the spout was fine. The seal around the can, regardless of how I threaded it, leaked horribly. I don't know if the can itself is the same or not, but they look the same. __________________ Brent '94 White LC; Kaymar Rear Bumper w/tire carrier; Hanna Sliders; ARB winch ready Front Bumper; Slee Transfer Case Skid Plate; Revo 285's, OME 850/863 Heavy 2" lift, INTI Rack; Warn M12000 Winch, Snorkel; Sputnik! TLCA Member #13420; KI6SGO

02-15-08, 05:38 PM	#25
97 FZJ80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Plano Texas Posts: 1,256	The septer spout empties the 5 gal can under 45 seconds. The unleaded spout empties under 1:40.