You can tell that by looking at the body?Black and white, Landcruiser and Prado. The 250 seems so much more “light duty” than I thought it would. It really does look like a 4Runner next to the 300. It’s not a very flattering image.

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You can tell that by looking at the body?Black and white, Landcruiser and Prado. The 250 seems so much more “light duty” than I thought it would. It really does look like a 4Runner next to the 300. It’s not a very flattering image.
It was inspired by 40/50/60/70/80/90.The 250 was designed entirely by a N American team not the Japanese. Hard to say what their inspiration was in fact. There is nothing of the shibui inspired aesthetics of the previous great Japanese designed trucks like the 40s, 60s and 70s. That is for sure.
Can't you see that light duty steel vs that heavy duty pepsi can 300 series aluminium?You can tell that by looking at the body?![]()
We have to get used to theseSo many mudders were complaining about the styling of the 200 -- "bloated", "looks like a Highlander", "too round and soft". Toyota gives us a more squared off LC, with a bit of a heritage look, and what happens? Mudders find a reason to criticize that too. Can't win for losing.
The 250 was designed entirely by a N American team not the Japanese. Hard to say what their inspiration was in fact. There is nothing of the shibui inspired aesthetics of the previous great Japanese designed trucks like the 40s, 60s and 70s. That is for sure.
I'll never forget that Utah reveal when they rolled the 70 series off first and it stole the show, upstaged the 250 completely. And you and I commented on that first photo spread that juxtaposed the 60 series with the front end of the 250. That was another unfortunate and not very flattering image. So if you put the 250 next to a 6o, 70 or 300 it shows poorly.It was inspired by 40/50/60/70/80/90.
Exterior was designed by calty but it did have some input from Japan.
Correct. I just think that's a more apples to apples to compare to overtrail which is a $14k price difference. That isn't small.
Regardless the percentage of LC250 or GX owners willing to do locker installs or axle swaps will be laughably small compared to the masses.
No, never broached the subject. This discussion has been about the form, the exterior design that lacks gravitas or presence compared to historical models. I am sure the substance, the engineering is first rate. I don’t think anyone expects anything less from Toyota or we simply wouldn’t be here bothering about it at all.Proof for this regarding engineering?
No, never broached the subject. This discussion has been about the form, the exterior design that lacks gravitas or presence compared to historical models. I am sure the substance, the engineering is first rate. I don’t think anyone expects anything less from Toyota or we simply wouldn’t be here bothering about it at all.
I think the idea is that those odd looking trim pieces are supposed to represent the FJ40 front clip. It's a design that should have been left on the white board, but that's at least the general idea I think:I'll never forget that Utah reveal when they rolled the 70 series off first and it stole the show, upstaged the 250 completely. And you and I commented on that first photo spread that juxtaposed the 60 series with the front end of the 250. That was another unfortunate and not very flattering image. So if you put the 250 next to a 6o, 70 or 300 it shows poorly.
I cannot understand why they went to so much trouble to design these two rectangular growths on the front side. They are just there, suspended in the air, don’t seem to fit well in the place made for them. Its not a very organic Japanese design. You don’t see anything like it in any classic Toyota.
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