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great work.
i am curious about the purpose of such a huge stinger on the bumper. it looks long enough to put serious leverage on the frame if you nose in hard. why do you need it?
but when is it useful or safer to have one so long? it appears to me to be counterproductive if you are switching from a steep decline to steep climb rapidly. in that context it's a shovel.
on old logging roads here you must nose into and out of narrow v shaped cross trenches created by the removal of culverts. i have buried the arb on my truck many times without issues. i think if i had that stinger i would be digging my way to australia each time.
And you'l be digging that ARB alot quicker and alot harder than I will with this bumper. The ARB sticks out further in front of the frame and has that real useful vetical front surface that works like a plow. The stinger is at a steep enough angle that if it ever became a shovel going from steep decent to accent, that would be the least of my worries. I've wheelled this truck pretty hard and have never gotton into a situation where the stinger has prevented me from doing anything.
It looks big cause it's on a big truck w/ big lights on it. The lights disapear after you've been driving it a few months.
Having the stinger was debated by lots of people when I had Frankie build the bumper. Since then there have been alot of other 80's with stinger bumpers - at the time tube bumpers on 80's were few and far between.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/172800-bumper-teaser-pic.html
Funny re-reading that thread - lot of flack about the lights back then too and how I'd hate them. I ended up really liking them there.
Really, I don't understand why everyone thinks this stinger is so huge, I mean, it's not much taller than this
https://www.metaltech4x4.com/p-2-fzj80-tube-bumper-w-large-stinger.aspx
...there is no way the mini-van is driving through this crap we have in Oklahoma right now!
Quite the snowstorm, wasn't it? How much did OK end up with? We had about 17.5" here in mid-Missouri when it was all said and done.
Why you selling it? I keep seeing your add and I know you've done so much work on it...
AR
Just keep what you have, and what you know, and don't hardcore four wheel it. Use it like you would use the 4Runner. You'll be happier, and have a more reliable vehicle that you know inside and out. It's the playing that breaks your stuff. It sounds like you're tired of playing.
I've got a 94 that is in nice shape. Runs but needs HG replaced. LOTS of aftermarket parts and clean TX title....All electrics and A/C and Heat both work better than normal.
Cheers,
Mike
Just keep what you have, and what you know, and don't hardcore four wheel it. Use it like you would use the 4Runner. You'll be happier, and have a more reliable vehicle that you know inside and out. It's the playing that breaks your stuff. It sounds like you're tired of playing.
x2 - I think you will find the 4runner is smaller than you expect unless you are small. I had a 1st gen 4runner on 31's before I bought my last 80 and the thing couldn't get out of it's own way. It blew a headgasket on the interstate at just over 200k.
I do understand the desire to have something simpler to work on, that is one of the main reasons I sold my 97 and bought the 92.
As you say circumstances change, but I'd like to hope we won't lose you from MUD. Its guys like you that make this 80s place the place it is.
Good luck on whatever you decide.
But my 2c is...
keep the truck
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