Troubleshooting with deductive reasoning

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'97 1Fz-FE naturally aspirated here,

Recently on a couple 2-hour trips pulling my camp trailer I noticed a lack of power uphill and over bridges. The first time it happened it threw a code for over fueling, did a little thinking and ended up reinstalling a cat that a previous owner deleted. The next trip it did it again, but it never threw a code, so I chalked it up to running 35s and factory gearing. Last weekend I did a 3-hour trip without the trailer, and it happened again, this time throwing P0171 (System too lean). I pulled over, cleared the code but within 10 minutes I noticed the code was already pending and I was severely lacking power. Got to my destination and cleared again planning to observe the return trip in a few days. Return trip was fine for the first two hours (same as before), then the same thing started happening in the third hour. It seems to get worse the longer I'm driving despite clearing codes along the way.

During the loss of power events it feels almost like I'm out of fuel. Any throttle position beyond barely open makes the engine surge like no fuel is being supplied. Deductive reasoning is telling me it's a lack of fuel and not a vacuum leak as it only happens after driving a long time. My first instinct is that fuel is getting hot enough that a weak fuel pump is struggling to keep up. My other thought (not knowing the system well) is that the FPR is weak and not holding back pressure high enough after fuel temps rise.

I haven't had a chance to put a gauge on to monitor pressure because I would likely have to intentionally have a several hour trip to replicate the conditions needed.

Any other thoughts on the subject would be helpful.
 
@His Dudeness
fuel strainer inside the tank been replaced?
^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^
The OP describes the EXACT symptoms of a clogged fuel pump pre-filter.
 
Check for fuel delivery and the fuel sock/filter as stated already. I bet the pump sock is dirty. I did this to access the fuel pump so that I don't have to undo the whole carpet each time.

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mine was doing the same , lack of power under load then suddenly running normal on the same pull. then I could replicate the problem every time . ended up being the fuel pressure regulator .
 
@His Dudeness
Has the fuel filter under the intake manifold or fuel strainer inside the tank been replaced?
To my knowledge, no. But I'm the 4th owner so that's hard to answer. With 214K I kind of doubt much has been replaced, especially considering all coolant and vac hoses are factory.
 
Brilliant! Thanks for saving me time!
You're welcome. Once you figure out the issue, please post up! This might not be a bad time to do the main fuel filter which is under the intake manifold. Check the FAQ section on the how to for this PITA filter access!!!

Good luck amigo.
 
You're welcome. Once you figure out the issue, please post up! This might not be a bad time to do the main fuel filter which is under the intake manifold. Check the FAQ section on the how to for this PITA filter access!!!

Good luck amigo.
Do you replace or clean the sock?
 
Do you replace or clean the sock?
It's a replacement item with approx 100K mile lifespan.
Toyota part# 23217-16490 fuel pump suction filter
You will also need:
77169-60010 fuel pump bracket gasket
23229-16010 small clip for filter
23249-74610 fuel pump cushion
23239-11010 small section of hose
Also add 2x 90430-12026 for the fuel line that you need to disconnect.

For part numbers and exploded view drawings drawings, go to partsouq.com and enter your VIN. You can order from them of go to your favorite Toyota dealer with a list of part numbers.
 
I replaced (pro-actively) my fuel pump, sock etc at about 180k miles. Everything looked brand new with minimal debris on the sock. All depends on the quality of fuel you get...

What most impressed me was the absolute lack of any corrosion on the pump guts - benefit of fuel from stations that don't have water issues. I kept the replaced fuel pump and stuff as spares given the condition of it all.

Anyhow, worth replacing the main fuel filter and looking into the tank to see what it's like in there and if the pump/sock/etc look good or a corroded and clogged mess. Clean the area really well before you open it up to prevent junk falling into the tank.

cheers,
george.
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Well, this is disappointing to have to deal with. I'm guessing this is best managed by dropping the tank and cleaning. Theres a good half inch of sediment in the pump box.

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Dropping the tank is not that bad, a pain yes, but overall not that bad. Make sure it's empty and you'll need to pull the rear driveshaft. This will be an excellent time to replace all the hoses, lines, and clamps.
Sounds like by the time I finish replacing the fuel sock I'll have replaced the entire drive train. LOL
 
What is the sediment consist of exactly? If it's corrosion buildup, that is a serious cancerous issue vs dirt. Although how would dirt get in there I wonder? If it's corrosion caused my water in the fuel, then my first thought would be to replace the tank, fuel pump and everything that was touched by that old fuel.
 
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