Testing for Bilstein - LC200 6112/5160 (3 Viewers)

[bloc]

We do have all the tuning and drawing worked up on 200 specific 6112s and rear 5100 and 5160s. The rear lift coil is already available. We are hoping to have these parts available 1st quarter of 2020.


Thanks for your patience. We are working diligently to get these parts out, we know the global use of the 200 far surpasses any other 4wd vehicle so we are aware of the importance, especially being a global damper manufacturer.



This is what I got back today

Any movement on this?

 

[silverhorse]

I bought the 6112 tundra application coilover.... i have not installed yet. In all my shock research with several brands there was hardly any difference between tundra and 200 coilovers..

 

[bloc]

I bought the 6112 tundra application coilover.... i have not installed yet. In all my shock research with several brands there was hardly any difference between tundra and 200 coilovers..

What are you doing for the rear?

edit: also, how are you adjusting spring rate for the different arm lengths of our trucks?

 

[silverhorse]

rear coil- TD (red) progressive with spacers if needed.. I'll be doing the Tundra arm conversion at the same time but the front shock lengths and rates between tundra and landcruiser are similar especially in the aftrtmarket..

OME spring rate chart(front springs)(from Slee offroad website)
part # 2612, 2613 and 2614(tundra app.)- spring heights are slightly different but rates are all 740ft. lb.

part#2700,2701,2702 and 2703(landcruiser app..)again spring heights are slightly different but rates are 625-720ft. lbs.

the Tundra 6112 options can come with a 600, 650 or a 700ft. lb. option...

Not only OME but every manufacturer I looked at had similar length and rates between Tundra and Landcruiser..

I should state the reason for me going with Bilstein was I have used their products in the past and like them but mainly because you can get more lift height out of the 6112 vs, the others...(which is what I prefer)

It was a hard choice especially with the adjustability of TD and mult. options from Dobinson, ARB , Fox , King... Any of these would be good options.. IMO

 

[bloc]

If I do aftermarket suspension my goal will be to keep it as close to stock height (plus the OE 10mm spacer) as possible. So I need to keep digging into the compressed lengths of these and others.

 

[silverhorse]

then Tough Dog would be your best best, it's 1.5" and has an adjustable dampening option vs, 2" for most others...

 

[Angelo1]

can someone please explain to me the details of doing Tundra arms up front or whatever the tundra conversion is. I’m not familiar with this process and lack the knowledge of what it entails and why it should be done. I’m currently running 35”s with a Icon stage 6 setup and it was recommended that I do Tundra arms. To do so, what is the cost.

 

[bloc]

then Tough Dog would be your best best, it's 1.5" and has an adjustable dampening option vs, 2" for most others...

I’m more interested in a higher end damper with better performance and resistance to fade. Otherwise I’d just keep the stock stuff on. I see icon goes down to 1.5” but am having trouble finding numbers for the others.

can someone please explain to me the details of doing Tundra arms up front or whatever the tundra conversion is. I’m not familiar with this process and lack the knowledge of what it entails and why it should be done. I’m currently running 35”s with a Icon stage 6 setup and it was recommended that I do Tundra arms. To do so, what is the cost.

Both (or all) of the conversions have been documented thoroughly on this forum. Do some searching and you’ll find tons of info. The short answer is it gives you 3” more track width in front without running spacers, which also increases travel somewhat.

 

[silverhorse]

yep, the Tundra conversion is all about more travel and stability. the 200 is my first IFS rig so I wanted to build it as best it I could with that in mind..

I’m more interested in a higher end damper with better performance and resistance to fade. Otherwise I’d just keep the stock stuff on. I see icon goes down to 1.5” but am having trouble finding numbers for the others

Ben at Filthy Motorsports | King Shocks and Off-Road Racing Parts specializes with King. he really knows his stuff and could do any height you want. he told me LC like to be in the 2" or less range for front componenents to be happy. I didn't want a heim shock or i would have gone this route. not a fan of Icon, too many broken parts and service issues for my liking..

 

[Yossarian]

I’m more interested in a higher end damper with better performance and resistance to fade. Otherwise I’d just keep the stock stuff on. I see icon goes down to 1.5” but am having trouble finding numbers for the others.

Koni made shocks for the 200, but I don't think they sold them in North America. @bjowett had access to them in the past.

 

[bjowett]

Yes, I'm trying to plan an order right now.

 

[bloc]

Yes, I'm trying to plan an order right now.

Are these the koni 90 raids mentioned in arichs shock collection thread?

 

[bjowett]

Yes, they sure are.

 

[JohnJB]

Are these the koni 90 raids mentioned in arichs shock collection thread?

FWIW I have these on my truck as well.

 

[Whiskerz]

I will email them again. I expect no news. ETA. I emailed them again this morning

 

[Whiskerz]

Got a response they claim March 2020 and they will be available . I will believe it when it happens. This is a better answer than next quarter

 

[KCSIII]

FWIW, I just emailed and was told 5100 and 6112 for the land cruiser 200 won't be available until end of summer..

 

[Whiskerz]

Summer in which year? Last year it was always the end of the next quarter. I think they may be still mining the steel

 

[bloc]

Correction. The unicorn farts

 

[KCSIII]

Summer in which year? Last year it was always the end of the next quarter. I think they may be still mining the steel

2020, I presume, but wont be holding my breath...