Suspension Travel Comparison (1 Viewer)

[TeCKis300]

Driver rear is sittings at 23" and 26.5" at droop.
With 9" between the axle and the bump stop.
Passenger rear is 23.5" and 27.5 at droop.
With 10" between the axle and the bump stop.
(I'm assuming the bump will compress an inch)
This is with about a 1/4 full tank.

I couldn't figure out why the RR would droop out another inch than the DR. The shocks had the same amount of shaft showing and same amount of threads showing on the top mount.

Cool. Larger numbers added to table.

Curious on the side to side difference and if it's related to the panhard geometry. I only measured my driver rear. I'll take a look the next time I have mine in the air.

 

[afgman786]

Driver rear is sittings at 23" and 26.5" at droop.
With 9" between the axle and the bump stop.
Passenger rear is 23.5" and 27.5 at droop.
With 10" between the axle and the bump stop.
(I'm assuming the bump will compress an inch)
This is with about a 1/4 full tank.

I couldn't figure out why the RR would droop out another inch than the DR. The shocks had the same amount of shaft showing and same amount of threads showing on the top mount.

I remember when I was adding spacers to the rear one side drooped more than the other before removing the shocks. But for some reason I recall the DR drooped more than PR.

 

[turbo8]

I found this: Lexus Race Team Wins Second Baja 1000 - Joe Bacal Interview and Story - https://www.tacomahq.com/3095/lexus-second-baja-1000/ which I found interesting.

I think this LX570 is now Monica?

They claim almost 15" of travel F\R with stock length arms. Besides shocks, I wonder how they achieved this.

 

[TeCKis300]

I found this: Lexus Race Team Wins Second Baja 1000 - Joe Bacal Interview and Story - https://www.tacomahq.com/3095/lexus-second-baja-1000/ which I found interesting.

I think this LX570 is now Monica?

They claim almost 15" of travel F\R with stock length arms. Besides shocks, I wonder how they achieved this.

Great article!

Yes, Joe confirmed that the second LX570 that he built and campaigned now identifies as Monica. The first one had a significant race incident and rolled, but evidently lives again somewhere in the middle east?

It's amazing that this same chassis has been running for over a decade and is as bulletproof as it is. Still killing it and doing lots of winning. Speaks volumes to the core durability and capability of the chassis.

15 inches of travel - yeah, pretty stinking amazing. They must harvest additional travel both in compression and extension. This can really only be done with relocated upper shock mounts I imagine as it allows for a longer shock to move up enough for more compression, yet have longer stroke and reach downwards. Modified bumps stops and body lift for compression clearance. Longer shocks with limiting straps for extension. Makes me want a beater 200-chassis that I'm not afraid to gut and cut into. 15" of travel could allow pretty crazy amounts of fun.

Dreaming that maybe my 200-series could be that one day if I move onto a new vehicle for family duties.

 

[CharlieS]

Looks like Cangaru's Monica runs Kings. The pick up points look stock to me (at least from this angle). I think they run in a stock class so have limitations on what they can do.

Chassis:

Front Suspension	Custom tuned King 3.5” triple bypass shocks with 2.5” King Coil-overs; stock OEM Toyota upper and lower control arms
Rear Suspension	Custom tuned King 4.5” triple bypass shocks with 2.5” King Coil-overs; stock OEM Toyota 4-link suspension

 

[tbisaacs]

Looks like Cangaru's Monica runs Kings. The pick up points look stock to me (at least from this angle). I think they run in a stock class so have limitations on what they can do.

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Chassis:

Front Suspension	Custom tuned King 3.5” triple bypass shocks with 2.5” King Coil-overs; stock OEM Toyota upper and lower control arms
Rear Suspension	Custom tuned King 4.5” triple bypass shocks with 2.5” King Coil-overs; stock OEM Toyota 4-link suspension

4.5”

 

[bloc]

Looks like Cangaru's Monica runs Kings. The pick up points look stock to me (at least from this angle). I think they run in a stock class so have limitations on what they can do.

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Chassis:

Front Suspension	Custom tuned King 3.5” triple bypass shocks with 2.5” King Coil-overs; stock OEM Toyota upper and lower control arms
Rear Suspension	Custom tuned King 4.5” triple bypass shocks with 2.5” King Coil-overs; stock OEM Toyota 4-link suspension

You can pretty clearly see some kind of blue spring sticking through the top of the spring perch though.. but it does seem smaller diameter and wire diameter than the main spring. whatever they are running it doesn’t appear to be bound to the limits of stock length.

 

[turbo8]

Doesn't look like the factory bump stops are in place either.

 

[CharlieS]

You guys are more observant than me! I see exactly what you mean, now that you pointed those things out. Thanks.

@cruiseroutfit I'd love a build thread on Cangaru's Monica... Keeping out the top secret racing edge details, of course. Just the basics would be incredible.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

You guys are more observant than me! I see exactly what you mean, now that you pointed those things out. Thanks.

@cruiseroutfit I'd love a build thread on Cangaru's Monica... Keeping out the top secret racing edge details, of course. Just the basics would be incredible.

Lots of details here:

Builds - Canguro Racing's Monica

There have been a handful of mentions and a couple threads about specific races but we figure it was time to really document a bit more about the vehicle, how we came to race it, how we inherited the build, the things we have changed, how and what we prep and replace before each race, etc...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[684cruiser]

@bloc looks like you have shock skids or guards, did those come with your kings or you ordered them separate? if separate where did you get them? I need some for my tundra, I have the universal shock boots that cover the whole shaft but I worry about rust cuz they trap moisture, badass LC by the way.

 

[bloc]

@bloc looks like you have shock skids or guards, did those come with your kings or you ordered them separate? if separate where did you get them? I need some for my tundra, I have the universal shock boots that cover the whole shaft but I worry about rust cuz they trap moisture, badass LC by the way.

Thanks!

Those came on the rear kings by default. It was actually kindof interesting that filthy motorsports (who actually sold me the shocks) wasn’t aware they would be on there.. but then it was a custom order that they just sent specs to king, and they were shipped direct to me.

Ben at filthy advocates using rubber sheet from inner tubes and zip ties to make what is effectively a flap that hangs down and protects the shaft. Says that works even better than what I have. I couldn’t find a way to make them hang in a way I was sure they’d be in position to actually protect the shafts though..

 

[Markuson]

Obligatory after watching that video

Oh dear... (ha)
Showi g my age, but I actually remember when that song came out. I was a shy little missionary kid from S America, and I couldn’t believe those were the words. My family just laughed at it...and then quoted the chorus for the next 20 years or so... The 70’s...

But anyway... re @Taco2Cruiser
Here’s sumilar wheel stuffi g in the field. Tgese are fat 35x12.5’s.

But also, note lack of much droop in front on tgat last one with the hanging front passenger...

 

[turbo8]

I had my shock out and decided to measure when fully compressed. Somewhere between 14" and 15" fender to hub.

 

[TeCKis300]

I had my shock out and decided to measure when fully compressed. Somewhere between 14" and 15" fender to hub.

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Sweet. I updated the table in the first post and looks like you're netting about 11.5" travel. Pretty dang strong!

 

[Bunga]

Turbo, are those king hydraulic bumps?

 

[turbo8]

Turbo, are those king hydraulic bumps?

Absolutely!

 

[Bunga]

I looked at the various builds, but I must have missed that. I really want to go for hy bumps on all 4 corners. Can you link me to pics and specs?

 

[turbo8]

I custom mounted them. There was lots of cutting, measuring and welding involved.

 

[Bunga]

Oh that is super sweet. And, exactly the route I'm trying to avoid because I need access to the rig. I was hoping to find a close-enough set to replace the inside rubber mount on the rears, and then consider the fronts. Clean work. Thanks!