Suspension Articulation RTI Tracker

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That makes sense but also you would think the longer wheelbase would cause the truck to stay flatter and use more of its articulation vertically.

But it kinda makes the who comparison moot. A Ram Powerwagon with a 149" wheelbase getting a 655 RTI must absolutely destroy a 200 series in terms of actual wheel articulation.
2005-2009 Power wagon should be 140.5" wheelbase, and yes they are flex monsters. Dual solid axle helps a ton.

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That makes sense but also you would think the longer wheelbase would cause the truck to stay flatter and use more of its articulation vertically.

But it kinda makes the who comparison moot. A Ram Powerwagon with a 149" wheelbase getting a 655 RTI must absolutely destroy a 200 series in terms of actual wheel articulation.

Wheelbase isn't exactly an asset off-road. Though too short is bad also limiting stability in climbing steep grades. But relatively shorter wheelbase is generally preferred.

The interpretation of RTI is the score represents a percentage of travel up the ramp in relation to your wheelbase. So a score of 1000 is 100% of the vehicles wheelbase in ramp travel. Width plays into it too as an advantage for RTI, but it is not computed in the score.
 
Wheelbase isn't exactly an asset off-road. Though too short is bad also limiting stability in climbing steep grades. But relatively shorter wheelbase is generally preferred.

The interpretation of RTI is the score represents a percentage of travel up the ramp in relation to your wheelbase. So a score of 1000 is 100% of the vehicles wheelbase in ramp travel. Width plays into it too as an advantage for RTI, but it is not computed in the score.
Your talking to the guy who owned a 157" wheelbase F150 for 10 years and wheeled it

I just had not fully thought about the wheelbase playing into the RTI. Im having trouble even understanding what its relevance is now. In terms of actually keeping tires on the ground it doesnt mean a lot I guess. I could have a truck with a 50" wheelbase and get a 1000 RTI and it has 5" of wheel travel. Probably wouldnt be all that great offroad all around.
 
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Does the LX700h OT have E-KDDS like the GX?

I was wondering if he tested the GX550 wrong. I think if he put MTS into rock mode it would have articulated better.
 
Does the LX700h OT have E-KDDS like the GX?

I was wondering if he tested the GX550 wrong. I think if he put MTS into rock mode it would have articulated better.
AHC. No eKDSS
 
Does the LX700h OT have E-KDDS like the GX?

I was wondering if he tested the GX550 wrong. I think if he put MTS into rock mode it would have articulated better.
In theory the Lx600 overtrail has the exact same suspension set up as the luxury. what I do not understand is who measured the lx600 rti... there are no pictures of that.
I´m pretty sure if he had toggle the switches from the mts the e-kdss would have articulated even more, but no one has tested that.
The only one who did acurate measurements of the 250 series platform was Thinkerers adventure. both having the same measuremente.
Based on a new edmunds video between 4runner trd pro vs gx... the 4runner with fox shocks looks like it has o much more articulation. then again no one has measured the new 4 runner
 
I ran the RTI ramp at toytec today and got a 528 with my '15 GX460.

I was hoping for 550, and immediately came up with the "racer" excuse that my dobinsons springs were not broken in yet. They have only been on about a month.

Good times!

I did use my DR KDSS bypass switch to ensure my sway bars were free to swing.
 
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Bumping with a question to the thread watchers... Has there been a score on the change from LC stock to SPC UCA + BP-51 ~2” lift? Considering this seriously for my ‘18 LC, and mainly curious - If I have done my homework correctly, the additional droop would be attributed to improved clearance around the spring bucket and a greater range in the ball joint.
 
Bumping with a question to the thread watchers... Has there been a score on the change from LC stock to SPC UCA + BP-51 ~2” lift? Considering this seriously for my ‘18 LC, and mainly curious - If I have done my homework correctly, the additional droop would be attributed to improved clearance around the spring bucket and a greater range in the ball joint.
Too much lift will for sure limit RTI score. If you are gaining droop, then you might be OK.

Nailing spring rate will be the other challenge.

Will you be constraining KDSS?
 
Too much lift will for sure limit RTI score. If you are gaining droop, then you might be OK.

Nailing spring rate will be the other challenge.

Will you be constraining KDSS?
No planned change to KDSS.
 
Nailing spring rate will be the other challenge.

This is true.

I had kings with their 2” of extra droop at the wheel, but also their 600# standard front coils. Stock coils are 500#/in. Being near stock weight, the 600s were too stiff for me to compress the front suspension to the bump stops under articulation.. so in the front I ended up with similar travel to stock, only at a ~2” taller ride height.

Switching to 550s probably would have addressed it but I never got around to it before going back to stock suspension.
 
This is true.

I had kings with their 2” of extra droop at the wheel, but also their 600# standard front coils. Stock coils are 500#/in. Being near stock weight, the 600s were too stiff for me to compress the front suspension to the bump stops under articulation.. so in the front I ended up with similar travel to stock, only at a ~2” taller ride height.

Switching to 550s probably would have addressed it but I never got around to it before going back to stock suspension.
This is a common mistake. I know i made it on my first few 'yota builds.
 
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