starter questions

[skiakhokie]

before I go taring my starter out I was wondering if there is anything else I should try to troubleshoot.

Here's the problem. I took off my intake and redid the gasket for my heat riser because it was leaking. It took a couple weeks so my truck hadn't run for awhile. I finally finished putting everything back together and fired up... only thing was I forgot to attach the throttle linkage and after about ten seconds of pumping the gas the truck wouldn't start. Go figure. So I found the problem and attached the linkage. I got back in and turned the key... nothin. No grinding, no turning over, no clicks, pops or snaps. nadda.

So I wiggled my battery cables... nothin. But the headlights were on with good light and all the fuel gauge came up when the key was in the 'on' positition. This tells me the system has power.

So I tried the screwdriver trick on the starter. A couple sparks but the think wouldn't crank at all.

I took all the wires off and made sure I had good contacts... nothin.

a friend came by and reccomended i hit it with a hammer. I did. I tried the screwdriver trick and the starter turned but didn't engage the engine. So I turned the key. The truck turned over only it made a weird sound like something was grinding in the starter. Eventually i got it started.

as it idled I checked for leaks and so forth. Turns out the exhaust was leaking so I shut her off. I tightened the header bolts and went to turn her over again. nodda.

I hit the starter again, wiggled all the wires. nadda.

I'm pretty sure the starter is shot. The only problem I've ever had with starting is the key couldn't be turned hard or it wouldn't start, you'd have to turn it just slightly, but the truck fired right up. Even on cold starts. Never had a problem with the starter.

Time for a new one?

Thanks

 

[Romer]

Most place that sell starters allow you to bring your old one in and they will test it for free. It's easy to replace. Did you try jumping your rig? You might need to let it charge for a while. Starters require a tremendous amount of current. There could be enough juice to power everything else, just not your starter. You could also have a bad battery.

Don't hit the starter with a hammer. My guess based on what you said is that either your battery is bad or its run down.

 

[kc_chevota]

sounds like a bad statrer solinoid (sp) i would have the starter tested

 

[Landpimp]

pick up a 81+ gear reduction starter to replace and upgrade yours......

 

[Devils Paw 80]

Is the 81+ a direct bolt on?

 

[Landpimp]

yep, i even run one on my 64 fj45LV, depending on the motor and ignition set up you might need to leave off the wire that bypasses the ballast resistor, no biggy. On my 64 I had to change the ends on the wires that go to the starter, again no biggy But it bolts right on and cranks SO much faster/stronger its not even funny. I believe if you asked for a 64 starter at the dealer you would get a 81+ GR starter.....so they even subsititute it.

think the starters are all the same from 81-92, maybe even 97

Is the 81+ a direct bolt on?

 

[65swb45]

yep, i even run one on my 64 fj45LV, depending on the motor and ignition set up you might need to leave off the wire that bypasses the ballast resistor, no biggy. On my 64 I had to change the ends on the wires that go to the starter, again no biggy But it bolts right on and cranks SO much faster/stronger its not even funny. I believe if you asked for a 64 starter at the dealer you would get a 81+ GR starter.....so they even subsititute it.

think the starters are all the same from 81-92, maybe even 97

What he said, except for the dealer part. Horrible sticker shock. Just ask for the gear reduction 82-87fj60 starter at your local store and pay the core charge difference. Prepare to spend a few minutes to extend the solenoid wire so it reaches. Then smile.

 

[mr_manny]

my toyota reman. starter arrived this afternoon, part # 28100-60070-84 $138 (add $30 for core).

new starters are no longer available,
manny 72fj40

 

[Landpimp]

yeah thats not to bad of a price. BTW the -84 at the end of a part or part # means its a OEM REMAN, which is just like new

also, my dealer took ANY ole cruiser starter I had for a core.......

was looking for this the otherday, pic of a GR starter on a 64 f135 motor...........bolts right up baby

my toyota reman. starter arrived this afternoon, part # 28100-60070-84 $138 (add $30 for core).

new starters are no longer available,
manny 72fj40

 

[skiakhokie]

I sent mine out and had it rebuilt for $140 yesterday morning. I got it back today, bolted it in and fired right up. Thanks for all your inputs.

 

[Romer]

Glad you were able to fix it. Did you hook up a ground wire from the lug of the starter to Frame gnd? Should have been one there from the old one you took out.

Good call kc_chevota!