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Down the home stretch, looking good.
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nice shop. Are you useing rez bar on the ceiling ? insulation looks pretty lofty ,gonna add a few extra screws if not ?
Pretty kick ass Glenn, your making my build look like a big red barn haha
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Any ideas on how to mount a big compressor to a floor I can't drill into. What about a heavy 4" by 4" sold wood base --- would that vibrate with the compressor?
Consider mounting outside on its own pad...you will be glad you did
I was going to ask why can't you drill into the concrete, and then I remembered all the piping. I second Phil's suggestion of the compressor outside in its own enclosure. You will love that option, your neighbours...not so much.
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Outside is not an option - residential area.
5 hp/80 gal compressor is 450+ lbs -so she might be too fat and heavy to dance (across the floor)
5 hp/80 gal compressor is 450+ lbs -so she might be too fat and heavy to dance (across the floor)
If you want to mount it on the floor you can get isolation pads so that compressor won't "walk" across the floor.
Vibrasonic in Burnaby can help with this.
Did you map out the floor with the pipes ? If so you can can drill where its clear of pipes.
If not then a thermal imaging camera will work. You can borrow mine if you wish.
Another method is to turn up the thermostat full tilt to have the heating system calling for heat.
Then wet the floor area where you want to drill and the area where it dries/evaporates the fastest is where your pipes are.
Works surprisingly well.
Good luck drilling.
Vibrasonic in Burnaby can help with this.
Did you map out the floor with the pipes ? If so you can can drill where its clear of pipes.
If not then a thermal imaging camera will work. You can borrow mine if you wish.
Another method is to turn up the thermostat full tilt to have the heating system calling for heat.
Then wet the floor area where you want to drill and the area where it dries/evaporates the fastest is where your pipes are.
Works surprisingly well.
Good luck drilling.
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Great information!
I have 3" of free concrete above any pipe (6" slab -1.625' riser spacer - 0.5" rebar - 0.75" OD pipe).
Would a 2" ~ 2 1/2" bolt into the slab be enough to hold that fat baby down?
Alternatively I could use the camera or water evaporation technique for a 5"~6" bolt.
I have 3" of free concrete above any pipe (6" slab -1.625' riser spacer - 0.5" rebar - 0.75" OD pipe).
Would a 2" ~ 2 1/2" bolt into the slab be enough to hold that fat baby down?
Alternatively I could use the camera or water evaporation technique for a 5"~6" bolt.
Very Interesting!
Haven't seen a Navien in Ages, all we seem to do is IBC these days for whatever reason.
Too bad you didn't know where you wanted your compressor before hand, could have made provisions for it to at least stub up some rebar and pour a higher pad in one spot on the floor.
Most Inserts for concrete max out at 2" roughly depending on what you use so you may be ok, but its still a risk.
Haven't seen a Navien in Ages, all we seem to do is IBC these days for whatever reason.
Too bad you didn't know where you wanted your compressor before hand, could have made provisions for it to at least stub up some rebar and pour a higher pad in one spot on the floor.
Most Inserts for concrete max out at 2" roughly depending on what you use so you may be ok, but its still a risk.
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Where are IBC boilers made? - the Naviens are Korean.
Burnaby... Heat exchanger is from Europe I believe. The ones we install they aren't for instant hot water rather we run an in-direct tank
We sell both at Noble, the IBC's are great units made locally for once. Seems like everything in plumbing comes out of Ontario or the US.
Yes a 2 inch Hilti drop in anchor is plenty and will prevent the compressor from walking.
This type of anchor will require a setting pin.
Not a fan of other brands of anchors .
If it's close to a wall you may want to do a seismic strap so it cannot fall over.
This type of anchor will require a setting pin.
Not a fan of other brands of anchors .
If it's close to a wall you may want to do a seismic strap so it cannot fall over.
I've got a 60 gallon air compressor at my shop, it's bolted to the skid it showed up on and just sitting on the ground. Hasn't moved in 10 years and the wood isolates it from the concrete. Works perfectly fine.
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Checked the Hilti site
3/8" DHI Drop in anchor needs to be drilled only 1 9/16" deep (leaves 1 1/2" between bottom of hole and pipe)
when installed will accept a 3/8" bolt
torque to 11 ft-lbs
rated at 1,100 lbs tension load each
x3 = 3,300 lbs - should be enough to hold her down.
Thank you Rugby
3/8" DHI Drop in anchor needs to be drilled only 1 9/16" deep (leaves 1 1/2" between bottom of hole and pipe)
when installed will accept a 3/8" bolt
torque to 11 ft-lbs
rated at 1,100 lbs tension load each
x3 = 3,300 lbs - should be enough to hold her down.
Thank you Rugby
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not that your not good with math , but if it was me i'd use ruggy's theory on the heat water method for traceing your pipe anyways,and yes its almost fail proof . slab might not be 6" all over plus pipe can rise in corners and 1/2 inch rebar would be 1 inch high at very least , if you used mesh on top of the bar all bets are off unless you actually were the one screeting the crete.
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A mildly amusing installment of "How the Shop Turns"... the garage door day.
Well the drywall taper showed up this morning - worked for two hours said it was too cold ( I told him before he started, but then what the hell do I know) - the mud was not going to dry and he said to call him when the garage doors are in and the heat is on. He also said the drywall scaffolding needs another deck - he can't reach the high middle ceiling - I phone drywall head honcho -left message - we need another scaffolding deck here asap and someone needs to come clean up the big drywall board mess left from the last crew of white plastered misfits that had the whole famdamly here (wife/daughter) on Saturday watching dad almost single handed install 14' sheets of drywall on a rickety saw horse on top of scaffolding that was not tall enough - by jesus I hope he keeps his Medical Service Plan payments up!!!!
Then the garage door guys showed up- with two of the three doors?? I asked where the 3rd door is - they did not know? I remember distinctly I ordered three (3) doors, since the shop has three big holes waiting for something to plug them up. - The second installer is autistic? - don't know for sure, but he was throwing minor fits in the background complete with eerie screeching sounds and arms flailing (I was thinking this guy missed Halloween by a couple of days) - these antics provided irritating background distraction, which I was trying very very hard to ignore, while I tried to communicate to the relatively sane door installer - who I gather from his less than complementary comments - has little respect for the office guy. So I called the office, left a message - finally got through - the third door is here, buts it the wrong door and needs to go back Kansas!!!!. So they expect me to live with a 120 sq ft hole in my shop for three weeks, until the right door from Kansas shows up. This guy is a comedian.
I said I need a third door (any old door - I don't care ) so I can heat the shop so the drywallers can work. I asked can you install the 'wrong' door until the right one shows up. I think so - he says - must check - will get back to you- wait - wait - wait-wait --- OK he phones back -Yes I can use the wrong door till the right shows up -- Great News! so I asked can you deliver the third door - NO - my truck is in for servicing ?? You would think this guy would have his bloody truck serviced on Saturdays.
Can I pick it up - YES - Great I will be there asap.
Well my trailer was loaded with crap - unload the trailer - went to use the Landcruiser - wont' move !! -- power washed and drove it yesterday no issues - get the jack out- jack up the front axle rear - spins freely - jack up the rear axle - one wheel locked - played with the emergency brake mechanism for 20 minutes - got it working - hook up trailer - drive off down the hill - stopped at the plumbing supply place on the way for a special order sink - long line-up moving way way way too slow - no-one at the counter - must go and get the bloody garage door - leave there get caught up in construction traffic - delay delay and more delay. Got the doors loaded and back to the shop. I continued working on the thermostat the last band of drywall halfwits broke off the wires in the wall (spent several hours fixing - tracing wires- as I had no initial clue how it went back together) as the entertaining second garage door installer provide intermittent tropical animal impersonations (mostly exotic bird motions and sounds) during the remaining afternoon. Finally the team of crack garage door installers got three doors 'installed' - enough at least to fill the holes - but nothing hooked up - well that was really something! I must say.. So the three big holes are filled and tomorrow is the BIG Day - I get finally fire up the boiler to start heating up the 50 tonne slab - can't wait.
I think I need to go back to 'work' with a steady boring routine. To be continued.
Well the drywall taper showed up this morning - worked for two hours said it was too cold ( I told him before he started, but then what the hell do I know) - the mud was not going to dry and he said to call him when the garage doors are in and the heat is on. He also said the drywall scaffolding needs another deck - he can't reach the high middle ceiling - I phone drywall head honcho -left message - we need another scaffolding deck here asap and someone needs to come clean up the big drywall board mess left from the last crew of white plastered misfits that had the whole famdamly here (wife/daughter) on Saturday watching dad almost single handed install 14' sheets of drywall on a rickety saw horse on top of scaffolding that was not tall enough - by jesus I hope he keeps his Medical Service Plan payments up!!!!
Then the garage door guys showed up- with two of the three doors?? I asked where the 3rd door is - they did not know? I remember distinctly I ordered three (3) doors, since the shop has three big holes waiting for something to plug them up. - The second installer is autistic? - don't know for sure, but he was throwing minor fits in the background complete with eerie screeching sounds and arms flailing (I was thinking this guy missed Halloween by a couple of days) - these antics provided irritating background distraction, which I was trying very very hard to ignore, while I tried to communicate to the relatively sane door installer - who I gather from his less than complementary comments - has little respect for the office guy. So I called the office, left a message - finally got through - the third door is here, buts it the wrong door and needs to go back Kansas!!!!. So they expect me to live with a 120 sq ft hole in my shop for three weeks, until the right door from Kansas shows up. This guy is a comedian.
I said I need a third door (any old door - I don't care ) so I can heat the shop so the drywallers can work. I asked can you install the 'wrong' door until the right one shows up. I think so - he says - must check - will get back to you- wait - wait - wait-wait --- OK he phones back -Yes I can use the wrong door till the right shows up -- Great News! so I asked can you deliver the third door - NO - my truck is in for servicing ?? You would think this guy would have his bloody truck serviced on Saturdays.
Can I pick it up - YES - Great I will be there asap.
Well my trailer was loaded with crap - unload the trailer - went to use the Landcruiser - wont' move !! -- power washed and drove it yesterday no issues - get the jack out- jack up the front axle rear - spins freely - jack up the rear axle - one wheel locked - played with the emergency brake mechanism for 20 minutes - got it working - hook up trailer - drive off down the hill - stopped at the plumbing supply place on the way for a special order sink - long line-up moving way way way too slow - no-one at the counter - must go and get the bloody garage door - leave there get caught up in construction traffic - delay delay and more delay. Got the doors loaded and back to the shop. I continued working on the thermostat the last band of drywall halfwits broke off the wires in the wall (spent several hours fixing - tracing wires- as I had no initial clue how it went back together) as the entertaining second garage door installer provide intermittent tropical animal impersonations (mostly exotic bird motions and sounds) during the remaining afternoon. Finally the team of crack garage door installers got three doors 'installed' - enough at least to fill the holes - but nothing hooked up - well that was really something! I must say.. So the three big holes are filled and tomorrow is the BIG Day - I get finally fire up the boiler to start heating up the 50 tonne slab - can't wait.
I think I need to go back to 'work' with a steady boring routine. To be continued.
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