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I've only used one to jump a dead Camry in a Menards parking lot. The one I had before was a $100 Schumacher jump box, which failed to jump my GX. The NOCO is rated to jump a 8L gas engine, so hopefully it can revive my 2UZ-FE if needed :).
 
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Rednexus said:
I've only used one to jump a dead Camry in a Menards parking lot. The one I had before was a $100 Schumacher jump box, which failed to jump my GX. The NOCO is rated to jump a 8L gas engine, so hopefully it can revive my 2UZ-FE if needed :).
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I have a mid-rated noco and it has surprised me.
 
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I have a mid-rated noco and it has surprised me.
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I've been super-impressed with their little Genius charger. I didn't disconnect the Odyssey battery in our camper over one winter - it was dead as a doornail by the time spring rolled around. The NOCO revived it over a couple of days and it's still working just fine a few years later. I don't think a normal "dumb" trickle charger would have been able to do that.
 
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I quarterly trickle charge mine. I dont do the 4runner though. Its the control. 😂
 
r2m said:
If I had a good place in the back of the GX, I wouldn't mind having both batteries back there also. But since I don't have any kind of drawer system or raised cargo area, they're both relegated to the front left bumper.
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This is why when I build my sleeping/fridge platform and drawer system I'm going to make room to stuff a battery back there.
 
Adding a place in my cubby for batteries, with ventilation and temp monitoring. Its my primary reason for wanting to rebuild it.
 
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I'm also looking at a Battery Tender for the motorcycle, which I don't mind for my car too.
This one: Amazon.com - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09XP77JCS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

But....
Back to the LiFePO Group 31 size lithium battery to replace my two Odyssey PC1200's. Any further thoughts from the crew??
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I would keep the starting battery a Lead Acid and the LiFePO4 as a 'house' battery. I get 8-10 years out of my starting battery and it is nothing special. Plus, if set up right, you can charge your NOCO off the house battery to save yourself in a pinch.

Items that draw lots of power at once seem to drain LiFePO4 batteries quick. They are great for fridges, fans, pumps and such but plugging in a Shop-Vac, log splitter, lathe, etc. can show it's weaknesses. Engine starts as well.

I have both, with the latest starting battery being ~4 years old and the 'house' battery with 3. I wouldn't change anything.
 
I went with Battleborn smart bluetoth, heated, we are much colder and I ski almost every Friday. I've had it installed for about 8 months. During this summers training season overnight with fridge running and phone charging I would only use 3-4% lowest I ever seen was 86% when training at a weekend event for 2 1/2 days. I do have solar to feed it as well.
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With that being stated I still have a dual battery set up, AGM for starting duties.

The Battlleborn came in bit less than half the weight of the AGM it replaced. I have the Redarc BCDC and swithed it for LiFePO charging.

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Prepairing for a long trip to Montana this morning, while removing my front skid plate for an oil change a large bolt dropped on the ground. A bit confused I start to look and the area the alignment shop would have been working the day before as I replace my upper ball joints last week.

I found nothing in that area but was concerned and this was a heavy duty bolt. To my surprise I quickly located the source of the bolt and other damage! The lefft front differential support bracket had a bolt completly back out, that was what was lying on the forward skid plate. Then I realized that the...
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rav8 said:
I would keep the starting battery a Lead Acid and the LiFePO4 as a 'house' battery. I get 8-10 years out of my starting battery and it is nothing special. Plus, if set up right, you can charge your NOCO off the house battery to save yourself in a pinch.

Items that draw lots of power at once seem to drain LiFePO4 batteries quick. They are great for fridges, fans, pumps and such but plugging in a Shop-Vac, log splitter, lathe, etc. can show it's weaknesses. Engine starts as well.

I have both, with the latest starting battery being ~4 years old and the 'house' battery with 3. I wouldn't change anything.
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I'm planning on either one big 'ol lithiuim (Group 31", 13" x 7.5" x 6.5" approx) or two AGM's. After about 20+ years of dual AGM's. I'm kind of done with the AGM's and feel it's time to move into the 21st century.
The Group 31 is almost the exact size as both the Odyssey PC1200's, so fitting shouldn't be an issue.

Regarding draw on big ticket items. I always run my engine when I'm using my winch, aux exterior lights, 3k watt inverter for chain saws or whatever. The only thing that I ever let draw on the battery without the engine running is the ignition.
 
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I'm planning on either one big 'ol lithiuim (Group 31", 13" x 7.5" x 6.5" approx) or two AGM's. After about 20+ years of dual AGM's. I'm kind of done with the AGM's and feel it's time to move into the 21st century.
The Group 31 is almost the exact size as both the Odyssey PC1200's, so fitting shouldn't be an issue.

Regarding draw on big ticket items. I always run my engine when I'm using my winch, aux exterior lights, 3k watt inverter for chain saws or whatever. The only thing that I ever let draw on the battery without the engine running is the ignition.
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The battery I have measures 12.76 x 6.86 x 8.95 in.

I don't know of any Battleborn (or equivalent) batteries that are designed or recommended for starting engines in a vehicle. That is why I mentioned lead acid and others said AGM for vehicle battery. They are a great addition, in he proper application. Good luck!
 
I’ve been curious about this but even the best agm only last 18-24mo in phx. I can’t imagine a lithium getting a deep start draw over and over would fair better. I called and emailed Dakota lithium (the only big player in lithium starter batts I think), and they ignored me.

Let us know how it goes.

Solid state is nearly here and those will do it and last.
 
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rav8 said:
The battery I have measures 12.76 x 6.86 x 8.95 in.

I don't know of any Battleborn (or equivalent) batteries that are designed or recommended for starting engines in a vehicle.
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Dakota Lithium has their DL+ 135Ah LiFePO4 (Group 24 size) that can handle starting and high amp draws, BUT is only intended for <150A alternators. It is self heated as well.

I used that battery as the aux battery in my Grenadier, absolutely no complaints, but the majority of alternators nowadays have too high of an output (not to mention the wrong charge profile) for it as a starting battery.
 
I’ve had good luck with Li Time LifePo4 batteries…. Might be one completely US maker for LifePo4 (Battelborn) but not on my list for reasons …not at liberty to discuss.
 
MallCrl said:
Dakota Lithium has their DL+ 135Ah LiFePO4 (Group 24 size) that can handle starting and high amp draws, BUT is only intended for <150A alternators. It is self heated as well.

I used that battery as the aux battery in my Grenadier, absolutely no complaints, but the majority of alternators nowadays have too high of an output (not to mention the wrong charge profile) for it as a starting battery.
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I have a 240 amp alternator. Just pulled the trigger on the battery. It arrives next Tuesday.
Hope I don't have any issues with it!
 
r2m said:
I have a 240 amp alternator. Just pulled the trigger on the battery. It arrives next Tuesday.
Hope I don't have any issues with it!
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Technically you could just run a second one and be safe :P I'd definitely do a voltage booster to get the charge voltage up
 
r2m said:
I have a 240 amp alternator
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Details on the alternator? I know the rear climate control option gave me an upgraded one from the factory (150A vs 130A) but no idea what other options I have.
 
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