Prices on mid- late 90's FJ80 FZJ80 land cruisers?

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Wow, and this whole time I thought selling a tricked out rig for its KBB was just a rover thing. I figured you should atleast get a LITTLE more out of it. So if I was to buy an 80 you think I would be inheriting a new set of expensive problems? Or just some maintenance issues?

I would settle for a stock 80 that is sound, than take my built up Rover out that died on me for no reason a month ago. I'm just worried my truck is going to fail me when I need it most...

That would be awesome Jack, I think I have your # but ill pm you.
 
Matt, given the fact that the newest 80-Series is now over 13-years old and the fact finding one with less than 100k miles is almost impossible or cost prohibitory there will be some baseline PM work. Having said that IMO less so than any other 13+ year old vehicle with like miles.

As Jack and others have mentioned I think the 80-Series, assuming you like them for what they are, is one of if not the best overall platform for off-road exploring, incredible reliability, ease of maintenance in and out of the field, pure relative comfort (to any other seriously capable 4x4 platform), etc.

You have mechanical skills so I wouldn't worry too much about labor costs as everything on an 80 is easily serviced by oneself with competent mechanical ability/skills.

I don't know the used Rover market but hearing what a couple others have gotten out of their stock or near stock rigs $10k might be a little optimistic. But that's an uneducated guess too...

I hope you do join us LC folks!!!
 
If I was to buy an 80 I would be prepared to research and perform what PM needs to be done. I just don't think I can afford to dump a few grand into it after I buy it. I'm curious as to what types of repairs/ maintenance you guys are talking about?

I may just have to pull some parts off a junkyard rover in order to sell off things like my bumpers in order to get the most out of them. I guess if I put it up for 9k or so and dropped down a bit to 8or7 I would get lucky.. Sad to think about how much the new parts on it cost me.

I look at it this way. I can sell my truck now and get the most $$ possible, and also find a nice used 80 while they're still floating around. If I wait a few more years my truck will be worth even less, and there will be evn fewer 80's around that are still in good shape. I bought the Rover in hopes of building it up and never selling it. I had no idea what I was getting into as far as how picky these trucks really are. If I get an 80, it will hopefully be a truck I can build and keep for a very long time.
 
Jack and Jon can weigh in with more precise costs but other than lift components (assuming you end up with a stock non-lifted rig) you're basically talking about brakes (possibly rotors along with pads), the PHH hose (more labor than anything else), possibly a head gasket (again labor is the issue mostly), birf rebuild along with clean and lube the hubs, grease u-joints, refresh diff & t-case lube, etc. If you supply the labor the relative parts cost for all listed above is probably between $750-$1,500 depending upon what rotors you decide to go with.

If you buy one without the e-lockers you'd have the cost of adding ARB air lockers. A regear IMO is essential if you are going to go to 33" or 35" rubber; but not mandatory as our LC compatriot Onur has proven ;)

The 1FZ-FE if properly taken care of will go 400K or better. The 80 would be IMO one of the best if not the best platform to commit to for long term service with a very comfie interior and robust drive line.
 
Given what others have stated...it seems that the 60 series would be LESS of a start up cost based on a lower sale price...
I didnt quite realize that the 80 series rigs were still pulling such a premium.
The biggest detriment to the 60 series is gonna be the lack of power. Aside from that, the rest of it is pretty bullet proof. It doesnt have all the bells and whistles that the 80 series does, but its as reliable as the 80 once baselined.
Also something to consider is finding mildly USED parts here on Mud for either of these rigs. People are constantly changing stuff and selling old parts. Not everything HAS to be NEW.

Although...ANYTHING you wanna make into a reliable wheeler will be MONEY when all is said and done. Ask me how I know.

If I were to do it again...Id probably find something that was already built with MOST of what you would wanna do. Someone else (Jack, Ken, ME. for example) will have already taken the loss and done the work.

Mid to late 90's model 4 runners are something that Ive personally always wanted to build....

However, I guess a GREAT DEAL of what you want will be dictated by how much you can get for your rover...
 
I've considered removing some of the parts from my truck and selling them seperatly to make more in the end. Parting it out is going to end with more money, but depends on what I can get for the truck when it has stock parts back on it and what not. I could make a couple grand off the axles themselves.

I'm not going to be in a huge hurry to build this truck up either. Like I said before, I'm going to build a lot of the stuff myself since I have the tools and knowledge that I dint have 6 years ago when I bought the Rover. I wheeled my Rover on some pretty hard trails, and I have no desire to do that with a vehicle that isn't stricly a crawler.. Its fun, but ill wait until I can build a crawler to do that stuff again. I want a reliable hunting/ desert rig.
 
One of the big challenges with a 60/62 is finding one that isn't rusty. Very few around that don't have the cancer at one stage or another. And coming from someone who bought a rust belt state rig you should avoid it at all cost!
 
I think I would like to go with an 80. I really like what I've seen looking at Jack and Ali's trucks, so that's more than likely what I would go with. I've been searching around on craigslist and it seems like there's a decent amount of them out there.
 
It really SUCKS that if you dismantle a rig youll get more out if it than if it were whole.
I find it really weird how that works, but it seems to be true.

Good luck with the hunt.
Its fun to look for a new rig, especially if its one you WANT.

Cant wait to see what you come up with.:popcorn:
 
chicago said:
That one (I think) will have the 3FE motor and A440 trans in it. That will most likely leave you with a desire for more power as that is the same power plant as the Fj62.
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'93 and '94 80's here both had the 1FZ-FE 4.5L engine (intro'd in 1993). But until sometime mid 1995 model year they had OBDI. All '96 and '97 model years are OBDII along with some '95's if you can find one or an owner that knows the difference on the '95's.
 
spressomon said:
'93 and '94 80's here both had the 1FZ-FE 4.5L engine (intro'd in 1993). But until sometime mid 1995 model year they had OBDI. All '96 and '97 model years are OBDII along with some '95's if you can find one or an owner that knows the difference on the '95's.
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AAAAH. I wasnt sure how long they kept using the 3FE.
Then that should be a pretty good deal then.
 
Well I was over at Jacks house for two hours this morning talking to him about all of this. We drove both trucks to get a better idea of what each of us was talking about.

So here's the plan. Sell the Rover, buy a toyota. Sound good? I think so....

Thanks again jack!
 
DiscoveryXD said:
Well I was over at Jacks house for two hours this morning talking to him about all of this. We drove both trucks to get a better idea of what each of us was talking about.

So here's the plan. Sell the Rover, buy a toyota. Sound good? I think so....

Thanks again jack!
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Yup. But then what'll we call you: "DiscoveredLC" :flipoff2:
 
keep looking.. if it were me I would buy a cheep 91-92 with a 3fe add a lunchbox locker to the rear.. and arb the front.... 1k in parts over what you paid for the cruiser and you can get a real clean one for less.. and they arent that underpowered untill you put a trailer behind them or big tires without a regear... add some coil spacers and do the oakie caster mod and wheel the snot out of it...

If you are willing to wait and look you can find a 93-95 with cloth interior and lockers but they are very few and far between..

an no neither of mine if for sale...
 
DiscoveryXD said:
Well I was over at Jacks house for two hours this morning talking to him about all of this. We drove both trucks to get a better idea of what each of us was talking about.

So here's the plan. Sell the Rover, buy a toyota. Sound good? I think so....

Thanks again jack!
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No problem, glad I could help.

spressomon said:
Yup. But then what'll we call you: "DiscoveredLC" :flipoff2:
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Jack
 
Jack is the MAN!
He is one of the few people whose opinion that I trust implicitly on this stuff.
He'll keep you on the right track for sure and keep your feet on the ground.
He's done that for me a NUMBER of times!
However...he will also help you spend your money too just like the rest of us!:doh:
 
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