Yeah new school always wins.
if you have never owned and daily driven a 40 you are not a landcruiser enthusiast;p
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if you have never owned and daily driven a 40 you are not a landcruiser enthusiast;p
Old school is a relative concept...
I see leaf springs on that wagon, it is indeed all relative
Yeah new school always wins.
You guys keep hiding these debates in threads about 80 series stuff that I barely ever open up to look at
Didn't know it was a competition
What do you win? I can't ever see an 80 being considered old school, I actually have a hard time considering a 60 old school. I think once it stops feeling like a tractor or horse drawn cariage to drive then it is considered new school no?
I am pretty sure the old buckboard freight wagons had no springs on the axles. But some did have the first suspension seats for the driver.
Well I guess that rules out 98% of Land Cruiser owners. Not to mention most up here have long ago returned to earth or been swapped with a V8 barf...
You guys keep hiding these debates in threads about 80 series stuff that I barely ever open up to look at
Didn't know it was a competition
I can't ever see an 80 being considered old school, I actually have a hard time considering a 60 old school. I think once it stops feeling like a tractor or horse drawn cariage to drive then it is considered new school no?
We do it because we know you will not check and we can get our jabs in first.
New school is ninja like that way.
We do it because we know you will not check and we can get our jabs in first.
I understand the new school guys are frail little fellows that have bad backs and need coil suspensions to help absorb the shock from breaking their weak bones, and are super computer savey ninjas with deadly brass knuckles that also protect the wrist from carpel tunnel syndrome, but you missed my question about the competition, how do you win and whats the prize?
Thank God you've chimed in Deny, not easy keeping these heathens at bay. Next they'll be expounding the virtues of automatic transmissions
... I guess that eliminates many of the 60 series.
but it has to have knuckle buster steering, eh? I am sure a true Old School guy would see a power steering mod as worse than cup holders.
but it has to have knuckle buster steering, eh? I am sure a true Old School guy would see a power steering mod as worse than cup holders.
There's always a bit of overlap between pure old school and new school, power steering is not a deal breaker
Plastic bumbers however are a little too 
for old school (the chrome cancels out the plastic end caps on the 60 series 
) Course this is just really my opinion, others may have slight variences like you were saying above John. There's got to be a grey line, else all us old school guys would only be able to drive is bone stock model T's
yup, if it's too cush it's no good.
80's are fine and everything, but an 80 series considered old school? Don't see I'll ever get there 
The 60 series was already too much of a compromise away from from the old school roots of a LC.
I mean come on, things like carpets, windows that don't fog up, not having to use some muscle to drive the thing, not sharing the interior space with your gas tank, being able to have a conversation on the road without raising your voice, plush car like ride, an interior not intended to be cleaned out with a garden hose, this 'new school' thing seems a bit boring
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The 60 series was already too much of a compromise away from from the old school roots of a LC.
I mean come on, things like carpets, windows that don't fog up, not having to use some muscle to drive the thing, not sharing the interior space with your gas tank, being able to have a conversation on the road without raising your voice, plush car like ride, an interior not intended to be cleaned out with a garden hose, this 'new school' thing seems a bit boring
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I understand the new school guys are frail little fellows that have bad backs and need coil suspensions to help absorb the shock from breaking their weak bones, and are super computer savey ninjas with deadly brass knuckles that also protect the wrist from carpel tunnel syndrome, but you missed my question about the competition, how do you win and whats the prize?
I under stand that most old school guys are large burly cavemen types that you can usually smell before you see because of the over whelming smell of BO and diesel fuel wafting into the room ahead of them. There size and strength make up for there under whelming web wheeling skillz. Unfortunantly when given a tool the mental fortitude is not there to correctly use it so duct take and chicken wire are still there main tools to get most jobs done.......as well as the occasional beer can.
The prizes are broken into two parts new and old school. If our a stemmed yet small crowd of old school guys was to win they get a can of Bondo, roll of tin foil and starting fluid. If new school was to win there large numbers would get a bottle of Lexol for the leather interiors and carnuba wax to keep there paint shining unlike old school that usually has very little paint showing through the rust and Diesel soot stains.
I don't know, even the older 70s have that fancy auto tranny and worse one of the nicest driver suspension seats. The passanger might be able to be considered 'old school' but I doubt the driver of such a rig would pass the grade.
... but what do I know. I drive a coil sprung albeit sparse on accessories and bling Nissan.
And damn proud of it!
Duct tape and bailing wire are king in the old school tool world, and beats having to carry multiple fuses, ten different speciallty tools, a code reader, and two spare computer modules into the bush to get a trail fix done.