Thanks for popping in to avoid answering anything. This is what I expected in response. Talk about a broken record? Your insults and distractions are entertaining but getting old.
Not mine, but supposed 2016 Land Cruiser Double Cab Pickup for sale...
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Thanks for popping in to avoid answering anything. This is what I expected in response. Talk about a broken record? Your insults and distractions are entertaining but getting old.
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Steve, its just that you keep saying the same thing over and over and over and over. Its almost a cut and paste. Then Phil chimes in a few hours later with the same thing (watch)
Ask anything, Steve, and I will answer. I've tried talking to both of you privately, and whatever I say ends up posted here anyway. You meeting with John at SEMA?
Ask anything, Steve, and I will answer. I've tried talking to both of you privately, and whatever I say ends up posted here anyway. You meeting with John at SEMA?
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So, if I get the drift of what your saying.... I should not send the Western Union transfer?
Then why so many unanswered questions?
If you'd like, I will post up your many ranting emails for everyone to review the facts.
Maybe start by answering the questions posed in post #885?
I was hoping both Papp(s) might be seen in the same place at the same time.
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Interesting - Why Plano? There is a Company in Japan called Toyota that has been cooperating with LC-America directly - why would they watch a thread?
This commentary shows you do not understand how the Toyota worldwide distribution and distributorship system works. And that's ok as long as no private individual is giving you guys money to perpetuate any of this.
As I stated, TMS, USA (not TMC in Toyota-chi) is not going to allow legal importation of this vehicle outside of regular approved North American procurement and distribution channels.
And TMC in Japan does NOT sell cars. They manufacture them.
Are you going to share your paperwork to prove your claims? We have EPA and DOT / NHTSA paperwork allowing us to bring these vehicles to the U.S. for testing for the purpose of receiving engine and vehicle certification allowing for onward legal sale of the LC America here in the US.
Are you going to discuss your plans for DOT approval of these vehicles? Our plans for DOT/NHTSA approval of these vehicles is to certify that they all -- LC America VIN 00001 through whatever -- meet ALL U.S. DOT/NHTSA regulations required for certification and legal onward sales in the U.S. If you are still concerned that the DOT approval process for these vehicles somehow falls short of your expectations, I suggest that you not buy the vehicle.
Are you going to discuss your financial position and backing? From the beginning, this has been an entirely self-funded effort. The EPA and DOT/NHTSA certification process that we are going through now is an entirely self-funded effort. We are proceeding under the assumption that our effort will remain self-funded until such time as we receive final EPA and DOT/NHTSA certification. Want to help move things along more quickly, invest in the certification process.
Are you going to discuss conversations that you've had with Toyota, if any? Toyota has provided us with significant emissions related technical data that we have used in our effort. Toyota makes additional information available that we have been able to incorporate into our effort.
I've said from day one I want to believe. And from day one, your "brother" has lied through his teeth about the whole situation. I am not my brother's keeper. That said, my brother, while not perfect, is my best friend, a great brother, a great father and a great husband -- among many other things. Not one bit of our success / progress to date would have been possible without his initial machinations.
Are you going to discuss your plans for DOT approval of these vehicles? Our plans for DOT/NHTSA approval of these vehicles is to certify that they all -- LC America VIN 00001 through whatever -- meet ALL U.S. DOT/NHTSA regulations required for certification and legal onward sales in the U.S. If you are still concerned that the DOT approval process for these vehicles somehow falls short of your expectations, I suggest that you not buy the vehicle.
Are you going to discuss your financial position and backing? From the beginning, this has been an entirely self-funded effort. The EPA and DOT/NHTSA certification process that we are going through now is an entirely self-funded effort. We are proceeding under the assumption that our effort will remain self-funded until such time as we receive final EPA and DOT/NHTSA certification. Want to help move things along more quickly, invest in the certification process.
Are you going to discuss conversations that you've had with Toyota, if any? Toyota has provided us with significant emissions related technical data that we have used in our effort. Toyota makes additional information available that we have been able to incorporate into our effort.
I've said from day one I want to believe. And from day one, your "brother" has lied through his teeth about the whole situation. I am not my brother's keeper. That said, my brother, while not perfect, is my best friend, a great brother, a great father and a great husband -- among many other things. Not one bit of our success / progress to date would have been possible without his initial machinations.
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Can you explain to me why I would need to have intimate knowledge of how the Toyota worldwide distribution and distributorship system works in order to sell the LC America? Does Patriot Campers have that intimate knowledge? Do they need it to sell their vehicles?
You didn't answer the question.
So your answer is that you're going to have DOT approval, but you didn't answer the question.
I offered to. When I asked for details about your plan, I was told, "I'm not giving an instructional class." You've provided nothing so far that should give anyone any belief that you are legit.
Did you take any deposits? Ever? Why the go-fund-me page and other requests for angel investors if you're self-funded?
That's all?
What you call "machinations", we in the real world call lies.
Yes and they do. Their vehicles are built for the market in which they sell them and meet regulatory requirements for the destination country. Taking a vehicle from another country, changing the wheels, adding a lift and installing a light bar is not manufacturing.
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Woof
So our vehicles -- just like Patriot Campers -- will be built for the market in which we sell them and meet all U.S. regulatory requirements. Taking a vehicle that is not eligible for sale in the US and making it eligible for sale in the US involves just a bit of manufacturing.
They could squash this like a bug if they were to import & sell 70 series vehicles through regular approved North American procurement and distribution channels.
In the meantime, though, I'm not sure what they could actually do to stop an effort like this. Sure, they could refuse to allow Toyota branded shops to work on them or sell parts for them. Short of lobbying for closure of whatever loopholes LC America plans to use, though, I'm not sure what TMS USA could directly do to stop it.
I don't have anything riding in this show though, so to me this is all
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Stop the sale of vehicles to L79/LC America for example. Among other things.
I asked a contact of mine at GST if this is possible. He said NO.
I asked a contact of mine at TMS if this is possible. He said HELL NO.
I would still like to see this be possible. Heck, I would even sell a kidney to buy one, lol. That being said, I think my kidneys are safe.
I asked a contact of mine at TMS if this is possible. He said HELL NO.
I would still like to see this be possible. Heck, I would even sell a kidney to buy one, lol. That being said, I think my kidneys are safe.
As I have mentioned many times recently, we do not need outside funding to make this work. We have and will continue to make this work through our own investments -- which is a quite satisfying proposition. That said, outside funding is welcome, as it will hasten the process and allow the vehicle to get to market sooner.
While I can appreciate your level-999 troll skills, maybe you or your "brother" could follow through on your many statements to not return until you actually have a legal vehicle to sell? 900 plus posts in this thread and STILL nothing for sale.