I keep the stock bulbs in the plastic containers the HID bulbs came in my glovebox just in case.
No HID for me - which replacement bulbs?
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So what HIR's do you order?...
Phillips HIR2 9012 for the high-beam and file off the tab
and
Phillips HIR1 9011 for the low-beam?
Phillips HIR2 9012 for the high-beam and file off the tab
and
Phillips HIR1 9011 for the low-beam?
Other way around in terms of part numbers... I went low beam only, HIR2 9012. Yes the upper tab needs to be trimmed.
TM, can you post up a reputable source for these HIRs?
meh. Had em. Burned out and tossed em. Not much more output than stock imo.
I had some of these in a previous vehicle and was not a fan - short life and not much if any better than stock.
The HIR technology has the advantages of increased lumen output without having to overdrive the filament - that's longer life and brighter.
I got my first set of Toshibas from a John Deere dealer, believe it or not. After they stopped carrying them they were available from danielstern on the interweb, I got the ones I had in my 100 from him. Those were Toshibas, I don't know if he's carrying the new Philips ones.
Doesn't look like he lists them on his site anymore. I sent him an email asking though. I'll post back when he replies
It looks like this guy sells both the Phillips low-beams and the Toshiba high-beams:
HIR Headlights 9011 9012 bulbs
I received an email from Daniel Stern and I just want to share the valuable tech he replied back with. He was even kind enough to include a few extras such as headlight cleaning tips, etc. Great guy and easy to talk to.
"Your best upgrade path is to replace your existing 9006/HB4 (low beam) bulbs with 9012 (HIR2) bulbs.
Short version:
The new Philips 9012 is a substantial upgrade in beam focus, luminance, and lifespan over the older Toshiba 9012. Get it at HIR Headlights 9011 9012 bulbs .
Long version:
The new bulbs are not some tinted or overwattage item. They are a newer, higher-efficacy design (Efficacy is the amount of light out versus the amount of electricity in, expressed as lumens per watt).
Here's the comparison of these bulbs to standard and high-performance 9005
and 9006 bulbs. A "+50" would be a Philips Vision Plus or GE Night Hawk. A
"+80" would be a Philips Xtreme Power.:
Low beam stock: 9006, 12.8V, 55W, 1000 lumens, 875 hours
Low beam compare: 9006+50, 12.8V, 55W, 1090 lumens, 300 hours Low beam compare: 9006+80, 12.8V, 55W, 1120 lumens, 275 hours
Low beam new: HIR2, 12.8V, 55W, 1875 lumens, 875 hours (Toshiba) or
1400 hours (new Philips)
So, compared to standard bulbs, you're looking at 88 percent more light
from the low beams. The beam pattern will not change, but there will be considerably more light within the beam pattern.
Of course, your headlamps _must_ be aimed carefully and correctly per
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply with any bulbs, but
especially with these high-output bulbs. Make sure the headlamps are in as-new condition. If the lenses are yellowed or clouded or fogged, polish and recoat them with this (and only this) kit: Headlight*Lens*Clean,*Repair*&*Restoration*Kit*::*AUTO*KITS*::*DoubleHorn*Products*
These bulbs are expensive as bulbs go, but they are very
cost-effective compared to a tarted-up 9005 or 9006 with blue colored
glass (PIAA and Sylvania Silverstar come to mind) that doesn't produce
more light and has a very short lifespan.
If you want to upgrade the high beams, go to your local Chevrolet dealer (or GM Parts Direct: Your direct source for Genuine GM Parts for a better price)and pick up two part number 15094219. That is a Philips 9011 bulb -- you can also get it from the vendor linked above. They are not some tinted or overwattage version of 9005, but share the identical filament geometry and base architecture as well as the same power consumption.
Here's the comparison:
stock: 9005, 12.8V, 65W, 1700 lumens, 320 hours
new: 9011, 12.8V, 65W, 2530 lumens, 320 hours
The 9011 bulbs have a double-wide top ear on the plastic bulb base, this is
to comply with the law requiring different bulbs to have different bases.
The extra-wide plastic top ear is easily trimmed or filed to make the bulb
fit your headlamp's bulb receptacle. Once that's done, they go directly
into the headlamp, and the existing sockets snap on. Please see
HIR bulb base modification for details." -Daniel Stern
This is for anyone thinking about upgrading their OEM bulbs or for those questioning their HID plug-n-play kits, for whatever reason.
"Your best upgrade path is to replace your existing 9006/HB4 (low beam) bulbs with 9012 (HIR2) bulbs.
Short version:
The new Philips 9012 is a substantial upgrade in beam focus, luminance, and lifespan over the older Toshiba 9012. Get it at HIR Headlights 9011 9012 bulbs .
Long version:
The new bulbs are not some tinted or overwattage item. They are a newer, higher-efficacy design (Efficacy is the amount of light out versus the amount of electricity in, expressed as lumens per watt).
Here's the comparison of these bulbs to standard and high-performance 9005
and 9006 bulbs. A "+50" would be a Philips Vision Plus or GE Night Hawk. A
"+80" would be a Philips Xtreme Power.:
Low beam stock: 9006, 12.8V, 55W, 1000 lumens, 875 hours
Low beam compare: 9006+50, 12.8V, 55W, 1090 lumens, 300 hours Low beam compare: 9006+80, 12.8V, 55W, 1120 lumens, 275 hours
Low beam new: HIR2, 12.8V, 55W, 1875 lumens, 875 hours (Toshiba) or
1400 hours (new Philips)
So, compared to standard bulbs, you're looking at 88 percent more light
from the low beams. The beam pattern will not change, but there will be considerably more light within the beam pattern.
Of course, your headlamps _must_ be aimed carefully and correctly per
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply with any bulbs, but
especially with these high-output bulbs. Make sure the headlamps are in as-new condition. If the lenses are yellowed or clouded or fogged, polish and recoat them with this (and only this) kit: Headlight*Lens*Clean,*Repair*&*Restoration*Kit*::*AUTO*KITS*::*DoubleHorn*Products*
These bulbs are expensive as bulbs go, but they are very
cost-effective compared to a tarted-up 9005 or 9006 with blue colored
glass (PIAA and Sylvania Silverstar come to mind) that doesn't produce
more light and has a very short lifespan.
If you want to upgrade the high beams, go to your local Chevrolet dealer (or GM Parts Direct: Your direct source for Genuine GM Parts for a better price)and pick up two part number 15094219. That is a Philips 9011 bulb -- you can also get it from the vendor linked above. They are not some tinted or overwattage version of 9005, but share the identical filament geometry and base architecture as well as the same power consumption.
Here's the comparison:
stock: 9005, 12.8V, 65W, 1700 lumens, 320 hours
new: 9011, 12.8V, 65W, 2530 lumens, 320 hours
The 9011 bulbs have a double-wide top ear on the plastic bulb base, this is
to comply with the law requiring different bulbs to have different bases.
The extra-wide plastic top ear is easily trimmed or filed to make the bulb
fit your headlamp's bulb receptacle. Once that's done, they go directly
into the headlamp, and the existing sockets snap on. Please see
HIR bulb base modification for details." -Daniel Stern
This is for anyone thinking about upgrading their OEM bulbs or for those questioning their HID plug-n-play kits, for whatever reason.
Wow, that's a much better price for the high beam. So, am I getting this correct that the 9011 is the Philips HIR2 bulb?
The one comment I've seen is that a normal automotive bulb has the front end dipped to block the light coming directly out the front and block the filament from straight on view, but the HIR's don't. I didn't notice it as a big deal with the Toshibas in my 100.
The one comment I've seen is that a normal automotive bulb has the front end dipped to block the light coming directly out the front and block the filament from straight on view, but the HIR's don't. I didn't notice it as a big deal with the Toshibas in my 100.
TM, my understanding is that the 9011 is the Philips HIR. I also understand that the '2' in HIR2 indicates either the 9012 application (likely) or the generation type it is, and this new Philips is the 3rd gen. Being GE was the first, Toshiba 2nd, and now Philips.
The lack of dipping front end on HIRs might correlate also to how well they emit more light within the same pattern beam as OEM.
The lack of dipping front end on HIRs might correlate also to how well they emit more light within the same pattern beam as OEM.
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By the way saying HIR1 or HIR2 is like saying HB4 - this is just the type number of the bulb and has nothing to do with the generation of bulb or manufacturer part number.
Summary:
Part# Type Base
9012 HIR2 PX22D
Summary:
Part# Type Base
9012 HIR2 PX22D
Put them in my Camry and lasted less than a year. I'm not impressed since my OEM went ~11 years without replacement.