My girlfriend's dog is worthless!!

[Arya Ebrahimi]

No plans to marry her, or anyone for that matter, for a LONG LONG LONG time.

I can't believe I forgot the most convincing evidence that this dog is retarded.

He pees on himself! Now I don't mean it splashes onto his leg or something. No, if he's peeing, and my dog runs up and tackles him, he'll roll over and continue to pee ALL OVER HIMSELF! WTF!?! LOL

Ary

 

[albee]

Try the supportive role. Go out together and get a dog book, work on the problem together. Beating a dog is not the answer EVER. This is a relationship issue not a dog issue. If the two of you cannot work this out together, then you should break up. good luck

 

[Jman]

1. Have you ever had a dog? You don't have to smack the dog to train him. But then again, he's not your dog. Just got to walk him regularly, and praise him when he does his business outside. Praise, praise, praise. Routine, routine, routine. But with a couple of young sex-up kids like you, I bet you have no routine.

2. Doc's line was funny.

3. The dog's mommy picks him up? You mean the GF? Soooo, you love dating a mommy type, yet you won't let the dog enjoy the benefits? Sounds like someone's a little jealous. You and the GF have some serious issues.

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

Buy her the book called The Art of Raising a Puppy by the Monks of New Skette. It will teach her about dog psycology and how to train them. BTW, the dog should have been crate trained and she is a bit late for that.

Smacking your dog on the nose does nothing but cause them to be fearful. There are better ways of disciplining a dog that do not result in the side effects of hitting, same goes for children.

Finally, the other posters are correct, don't marry this one. What you do need to do is sit down and discuss the issue of the dog with her.

Cary, I'll pass the name of that book along. I have definately tried to sit down with her and talk to her about it, but she's not very receptive.

As for hitting my dog, she doesn't exhibit the traditional fearful behaivor of a dog that has been beaten a lot. She does duck occasionally when she knows she's in trouble, but only when she's done something pretty bad, like completely destroying my apartment(one occasion in particular involved all of my floor lamps being knocked over, all my laundry being scattered around the apartment, a wool hat being shredded, and the shoe laces missing from 2 pairs of shoes) in that case I didn't even need to hit her, she already knew she was in deep s***. I just locked her in the kitchen for a few hours and then gave her the cold shoulder for a few days. She hasn't eaten anything except napkins and papertowels since.

Ary

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

Jman, it is true, the gf has absolutely no routine. I do indeed have a dog, and although my routine isn't very consistent, there is some semblence of order. I have also trained my dog to come get me when she needs to go outside.

Again, I'm not a fan of mercilessly beating a dog, but a firm smack on the nose has gotten my dog into shape and I rarely have any trouble with her(unless she's with the gf's dog).

Ary

 

[miletwo]

That's how she'll raise her children, too.

Run fast.

Run far.

Ditto on the run fast and far. This is EXACTLY how she will manage the household, undermining your attempts to discipline your chlidren. They will grow up disrespecting you the way she does.

 

[Doc]

I think we need pics of the girl friend in question.

 

[72FJ40LandCruiser]

Tell your cousin to get a new dog already.

Fxxxin beat me to it!

 

[Jman]

Jman, it is true, the gf has absolutely no routine. I do indeed have a dog, and although my routine isn't very consistent, there is some semblence of order. I have also trained my dog to come get me when she needs to go outside.

Again, I'm not a fan of mercilessly beating a dog, but a firm smack on the nose has gotten my dog into shape and I rarely have any trouble with her(unless she's with the gf's dog).

Ary

I know an older woman that was a little senile who had a poodle, it was totally feral at six months. Her daughter took it in, and within a couple weeks, it was completely trained in all regards. Of course, it helped that there was a bigger, older dog in the house, too, to help keep things in line.

 

[gearguywb]

Pics of the gf....and as far as the dog, if it is that bad...bang, bang.

 

[cary]

He pees on himself! Now I don't mean it splashes onto his leg or something. No, if he's peeing, and my dog runs up and tackles him, he'll roll over and continue to pee ALL OVER HIMSELF! WTF!?! LOL

Ary

Actually it has nothing to do with the dogs intelligence. The dog has two things going on, it appears on one level he is trying to establish his territory, on the other level he is extremely submissive. The rolling over is submissive, the continued peeing while rolling over is either fear or being very exited to see your dog.

BTW, the problem will not fix itself unless your Girlfriend joins in on fixing it. Right now her dog knows that you are dominate over it, but it looks like your Girlfriend has not established dominance (and you don't need to use physical violence to establish it). Further she has been telling the dog that it okay to pee and poop in the house. You will need to come up with a unified plan that both of you follow and both stick to it. If you do, you will both be happier in the end. If you don't she will continue to see you as a prick who doesn't like her cute little fluffy.

 

[cary]

Cary, I'll pass the name of that book along. I have definately tried to sit down with her and talk to her about it, but she's not very receptive.

As for hitting my dog, she doesn't exhibit the traditional fearful behaivor of a dog that has been beaten a lot.
Ary

A couple more thoughts/comments:

Just because your dog doesn't flinch doesn't mean that she doesn't feel fearful or act fearful in some manner. Even if she doesn't it still doesn't change that hitting doesn't do anything that can't be accomplished by other means and with less mental damage.

Your girlfriend may not be receptive because of the way you are approaching her. Do not say "Your dog is XXX" or "You need to" or similar things. Tell her you want to talk about it. Say, "Obviously I really like you, and I like fluffy, but it is really upsetting me that my things are getting damaged. I would like to work with you on getting fluffy not to do this anymore, and I think both of us will like her even more than." It's touchy feely crap and says the same thing as the first way, but from her perspective you are not blaming her for anything and putting her on the defensive. Remember, the fastest way to shut down a conversation with a girl is to tell them they have to do something or are wrong.

 

[SWUtah]

Take the dog and your girl friend to a good trainer. Tell him/her everything you have here and then do what they say to do. Sounds like neither of you know how to train a dog. Also if the dog hasn't been fixed do it that will help.

 

[T Y L E R]

Ohmmmm .. 10,9,8,7,10,9,8


:dualbirdage:

 

[flintknapper]

What did you say?

Alright, I'm seriously at wits end with this stupid mutt. He pees and s***S in the house, not always, but regularly enough that it's a problem.

He doesn't listen to any commands except "SIT" if you're in his face.

HaHa! I think the dog "misunderstood" you. Be sure to carefully annunciate your words!

Now, why he "pees" in the house, I don't know.

 

[BOUNDER]

Alright, I'm seriously at wits end with this stupid mutt. He pees and s***s in the house, not always, but regularly enough that it's a problem. He likes to mark his territory every time he comes in my apartment, today it was on my Arc'Teryx shell and my office chair (the catalyst for this post)

He doesn't listen to any commands except "sit" if you're in his face. He won't come or do anything. He can't jump. Not that this is a bad thing, but I seriously think he is incapable. He can't even jump into my girlfriend's car(olds alero, not a big truck or something).

He's just seriously the most defective dog ever. The biggest problem is that when I discipline him for peeing on my carpet, his mother picks him up and cuddles him and says she's sorry. Now I'm not abusive, but when a dog s***s or pees in my apartment, I feel he deserves a firm smack on the nose. It worked great for my dog, she hasn't s*** or pissed in the house in 3 months. They're both 6 months old. My gf just whines at him if he has an accident and then cleans it up, no discipline whatsoever.

He's the definition of a mama's boy, and I don't know how to convince my gf that he needs to be disciplined or he will just keep behaving the same way. But I think his problem is bigger than discipline, I really think he might be mentally handicapped.



Rant over.

Ary

Give the dog up if she can't train it right. It's an F'in baby and you're smackin it? How much can a human child do at 2 years?! When he comes over, immediately put him in his crate - yes, CRATE TRAIN - and when you take him out, watch him close - as soon as he starts to go, "NO!", pick him up and bring him outside. Do this a few times and he'll get it. Give the dog a chance. Slap your gf instead - this is exactly how I adopted my pure-bred Lab - s***-for-brains guy and chick couldn't figure out what to do - so I got an $600-$800??? AKC Chocolate Lab for FREE - plus a donation I made to Lab rescue. Dumb s*** owners make me MAD Good luck to you.

 

[crushers]

It's an F'in baby and you're smackin it? How much can a human child do at 2 years?! When he comes over, immediately put him in his crate - yes, CRATE TRAIN - and when you take him out, watch him close - as soon as he starts to go, "NO!", pick him up and bring him outside. Do this a few times and he'll get it. Give the dog a chance. Slap your gf instead - this is exactly how I adopted my pure-bred Lab - s***-for-brains guy and chick couldn't figure out what to do - so I got an $600-$800??? AKC Chocolate Lab for FREE - plus a donation I made to Lab rescue. Dumb s*** owners make me MAD Good luck to you.

what the hell does "2 year old child" relate to a dog? in the proper hands a 2 year old dog should be well on his way to being obediant.
yes, i smack my dog on the rump or on the nose. this does not mean you cold cock the mutt with a closed fist, a smack is not beating a dog.
i agree, a loud NO!! and being carried outside works well even if he is peeing the whole way, he will get the idea.
kennel trained dogs send shivers down my spine. there is no way in hell i am locking up my dog.
now you go sit in the can for 8 hours a day for a week and tell me if you like it. no newspaper, no internet, no phone and no tv, you sit there and stare at 4 walls. you get one meal a day and only dry dog food. THAT is animal cruelty. THAT is wrong on just too many levels.
my dogs have the run of the house, the yard and the vehicle when we go for drives. i will not lock my best friend up.

i do agree, some people should never have pets (or kids for that matter). they just do not seem to know how to raise them.

cheers

 

[wob]

what the hell does "2 year old child" relate to a dog? in the proper hands a 2 year old dog should be well on his way to being obediant.
yes, i smack my dog on the rump or on the nose. this does not mean you cold cock the mutt with a closed fist, a smack is not beating a dog.
i agree, a loud NO!! and being carried outside works well even if he is peeing the whole way, he will get the idea.
kennel trained dogs send shivers down my spine. there is no way in hell i am locking up my dog.
now you go sit in the can for 8 hours a day for a week and tell me if you like it. no newspaper, no internet, no phone and no tv, you sit there and stare at 4 walls. you get one meal a day and only dry dog food. THAT is animal cruelty. THAT is wrong on just too many levels.
my dogs have the run of the house, the yard and the vehicle when we go for drives. i will not lock my best friend up.

i do agree, some people should never have pets (or kids for that matter). they just do not seem to know how to raise them.

cheers

Crate training a dog rocks. When my dog is inside and gets tired, or at night when its bed time, he goes in his kennel. At night, I shut the door, and don't have to worry about a 15 week old puppy running around pooping or chewing up the place. When the sun starts to break in the morning, he barks once to wake me up, and I let him out. As long as you NEVER mess with him while he's in it or use it as punishment, he will always think of it as his "safe place." This is the first dog I have crate trained, and let me tell you, it is the way to go.

 

[SWUtah]

total bull s***!
Cruiser isn't fixed and he is well trained, Riley is and he is an idiot...
Billy wasn't fixed and he was very well trained.
Hobo was fixed and smart as a whip, too smart for his own good. had to put him down
Monkey wasn't fixed and he was a smart dog.
Chico wasn't fixed and very well trained.

this is just my personal experience.
others might have different results.
cheers

Not talkin about training I'm talkin about markin

 

[Gumby]

Crate trained my new Dane. It's great. My Newf/Border would have never stood for it. Any captivity makes him nuts.

The submissive urination has nothing to do with stupidity.

Dogs sure as hell can be stupid. Different breeds have different levels of training ability. Different dogs have different intelligences and different personalities. Some want to please, some don't as much. They all respect alpha order. Get a book that can teach you how to speak dog.

You didn't say what kind of dog it is. If it's a punter dog get another GF. There's nothing worth being around a punter dog.