MAF Turbo

[Cruiserhead05]

The cost for a standard longblock rebuild is $3,495.00. There is a core charge on top of that if you cant send us your engine to rebuild. We can also do a lower compression engine for 3,995.00 for people who want to crank the boost up. Personally, I would reccomend doing standard with normal boost. We had to work a lot on the cooling system of the 80 we did with the lower compression. http://www.man-a-fre.com/services/serviceworkgallery.htm

Steve

Funny, i was just checking that out....i'm not some big HP junky so i dont think i would be trying to get max power like it seems that one has had done to it. I remember Jamie saying his turbo'd 80 with 4 pounds of boost was dyno'd at like 325hp....thats sounds like plenty to me. Soo lets se.. 3500 for the rebuild? is that labor included?????? im guessing no.
Lets just say....
5k for the rebuild
5K for the turbo
Shipping out to CA(I'll drive it back home)


UGGGHHH i may need to take a loan out from the bank...

 

[LX_TREME]

http://www.man-a-fre.com/services/serviceworkgallery.htm

Steve

Link didnt work, fix it for ya
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[cruiserdan]

There goes Dan, pooping on everyone's fun again.

Sheesh, for the $$$ being thrown around you could do a nice V8 swap.

I did not say it couldn't be done, I said I wouldn't do it......... ;p

 

[Steve-O]

Also, is it possible you could encounter tranny issues after turboing and/rebuilding the engine. i mean could a 250k mile tranny handle it?

Anything is possible, we havent tried it yet to be honest. I dont think your tranny will appreciate it too much. I think after the new turbo is up, we will be putting an h151 5-speed in to my bosses 80. That should be pretty sweet. We have put the 5-speeds in other 80's, but never with a turbo. I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of power we can get. I might get even more jealous and start saving up to get it done.

Steve

 

[Steve-O]

Link didnt work, fix it for ya
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Thanks Harry!

 

[Cruiserhead05]

Anything is possible, we havent tried it yet to be honest. I dont think your tranny will appreciate it too much. I think after the new turbo is up, we will be putting an h151 5-speed in to my bosses 80. That should be pretty sweet. We have put the 5-speeds in other 80's, but never with a turbo. I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of power we can get. I might get even more jealous and start saving up to get it done.

Steve

MMMMMM...6 inch slee coils, 4.88's, 5-speed and a turbo, my mind is racing.

 

[Cruiserhead05]

So worse comes to worse i Rebuild, I turbo, and i do a new tranny.......it might be smarter to wait a couple years and find an 80 someone has already done all this to and is bored with, could save some trouble and money.

Well steve, for many of us i can see it becoming a waiting game b/c it isnt a cheap mod but do you ever see it dwindling away like safari turbo's....i think we would all hate that.

Bd

 

[clownmidget]

I did not say it couldn't be done, I said I wouldn't do it......... ;p

yeah, for the $$$ you could go a long way towards having the 5-spd with the 1HD-FTE, throw in some propane injection and you'd be cooking good enough!

But to address one point that has been brought up, I installed the Safari unit on my motor at just under 130K miles. That was after having the Kazuma/TRD s/c on it from 100K to 125K miles (and it's on Big Moose's truck now and doing fine by all accounts). I now have 150K miles on it with no issues other than the tranny oil cooler.

But I have to say it's not a smart move to do unless you're ok with the potential for the engine to give up the ghost.

Mike R

 

[cruiserdan]

Dan would your view change if before the install you had good compression, and you then tore down to the head gasket?

Also, what about using a head gasket that reduced compression?

That is a difficult question to answer without going out on tangents.

Here is my view on engine life, no matter the forced induction part:

We assume that a well maintained 1FZ should run 250-300k miles before a rebuild. Replacing a head gasket is a major job and a healthy chunk of the labor that would be involved in an overhaul. I think pulling down an engine with over 150k on it just to do the head gasket is like taking a shower and putting your dirty clothes back on. If you are going in that deep you might as well overhaul it. All you add to a "running" engine would be bearings, rings, seals, timing chain and a valve grind. The valve grind being something you should do while the head is off anyway.
The reason I feel this way is because you are more than 1/2 way through the lifespan of the engine and you are going to spend at around 1/2 of the overhaul cost to do the head gasket.

 

[clownmidget]

MMMMMM...6 inch slee coils, 4.88's, 5-speed and a turbo, my mind is racing.

A.Podvin did essentially this 5 years ago and then eBayed if for around $20K (IIRC the details)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cruiserhead05]

Clown, 20k is alot of money but then again that is one helluva truck for 20k....seriously, imagine what 20k would get you on a new Toyota dealer lot today....nothing even remotely close to a super built 80.

Nevertheless, keep us posted steve. its very interesting and my only hope is that it doesnt die like safari and stays available.

Ok going to work now.....i'll check this later tonight

 

[Steve-O]

my only hope is that it doesnt die like safari and stays available.

The only reason the safari died is because they didnt want to make it anymore. The 80 series is not as popular in OZ as in the states. I seriously doubt us stopping production on the turbo unless no one ever purchased it.

We are also having our 4,5, and 6 inch lifts coming out pretty soon too. I should have about 50 kits ready the next time 4+ makes a delivery. While I'm at it, we are also working on shipable rear 4+ bumpers and our sliders with bolt-on brackets instead of weld-on.

Steve

 

[landtank]

bolt on sliders you say, will they work with the leading arm drop bracket?

 

[concretejungle]

I'm sure my opinion is against the norm, but i say throw a turbo or a SC on any mileage FZJ and let it run. If the head gasket blows, it blows, and then you replace it.

 

[Steve-O]

bolt on sliders you say, will they work with the leading arm drop bracket?

We are going to make them so they work with our lift. For some of the other manufacturers sliders I am not quite sure if the brackets will get in the way. We should take this to another thread though, sorry to hijack.

Steve

 

[reffug]

It shouldnt be more than the safari kit, but it is hard to say because we are putting so many better parts into it.

PLEASE DONT TAKE ME WRONG BUT........

Elaborate on this statement in detail cause those of us who might be lucky enough to possess the safari system would definately be interested.

Also MAF has talked alot of S in the past as most cruiserheads know and not always produced. I do think you personally are doing alot to repair that image and reputation.

However having said that please until you have specs, actual production, dyno #'s, reliability, customer feedback, and the like etc.......(I could go on forever) don't put down something else.

I don't believe this was your intent with the above post but by some it could be taken that way.

 

[Cruiserhead05]

PLEASE DONT TAKE ME WRONG BUT........

Elaborate on this statement in detail cause those of us who might be lucky enough to possess the safari system would definately be interested.

Also MAF has talked alot of S in the past as most cruiserheads know and not always produced. I do think you personally are doing alot to repair that image and reputation.

However having said that please until you have specs, actual production, dyno #'s, reliability, customer feedback, and the like etc.......(I could go on forever) don't put down something else.

I don't believe this was your intent with the above post but by some it could be taken that way.

Always keeping everyone in line. i like it.


Steve, all this talk does sound very sweet and if you stick with your word on the turbo, the lift, the sliders and bumpers i think it would do wonders for MAF. I'm only 19 and just starting to mod my 80 and have the potential to be a strong loyoal customer and i know there are plenty out there like me. Pulling through with that type of stuff could go a long way.

 

[Steve-O]

PLEASE DONT TAKE ME WRONG BUT........

Elaborate on this statement in detail cause those of us who might be lucky enough to possess the safari system would definately be interested.

Also MAF has talked alot of S in the past as most cruiserheads know and not always produced. I do think you personally are doing alot to repair that image and reputation.

However having said that please until you have specs, actual production, dyno #'s, reliability, customer feedback, and the like etc.......(I could go on forever) don't put down something else.

I don't believe this was your intent with the above post but by some it could be taken that way.

The main differences between the two kits will be the manifold, turbine, and intercooler. The manifold is a solid 1-piece cast design with the wastegate mounted directly to it. Mounting the wastegate to the manifold is a better design than mounting it to the turbine like the safari kit. The new turbine will most likely be larger (testing this right now) and will definately have ceramic ball bearings. The safari turbine was a bushing type, producing more lag. Ceramic bearing turbines allow the vehicle to reach higher levels of horse power at lower rpm's. The intercooler will be much larger and completely aluminum. I hope this answered some of your questions. Thank you for the compliment.

Steve.

 

[Steve-O]

Steve, all this talk does sound very sweet and if you stick with your word on the turbo, the lift, the sliders and bumpers i think it would do wonders for MAF.

I agree, final production of these items is very important to me. The prototypes are done, I have posted pictures here before of everything. The only thing we are waiting for is production. 4+ has recently setup a much larger fabrication facility, with all new equipment. When that is all set up and situated, we shall have your kits. I'm actually expecting to see the lift brackets in about two weeks or so.
Steve

 

[reffug]

I hope this answered some of your questions. Thank you for the compliment.

Steve.

Yes sir, and thank you for taking the time to reply, I look forward with great interest to see what the final report on your product will yield.

Compliments given when I believe they are earned.