Appreciate the input so far.
@eatSleepWoof I perused your conversion thread this AM and that is some super impressive stuff.
Anyway, as far as specific needs/wants, our starting point is that we just need more space to carry our stuff, and we need something to hold the stuff full-time so it doesn't have to be dragged out of and then back into the basement each weekend. Tents, bedding, camp kitchen, coolers, water, camp furniture, boats (alternately 1x canoe, 2x SUP or 4x hardside kayaks) etc etc. We like toys and don't travel light. Bikes almost always go. There is so much stuff to load, it would be really nice to just have a rig more or less ready to roll. The other issue is space. The Sienna carries the most stuff, but it is no bueno off-road. We do enjoy Govt campgrounds with their nice picnic tables, running water and washrooms but it is such a PITA to get a site these days that we're more likely to be in dispersed camping....which is going to involve some dirt. As a typical example, here's the setup last weekend:
Super sweet spot. You can't see it but the river is just behind the trees. Not far off the highway but the access included a 15% (or better) washed-out section then a pretty good chunk of moguls, with some puddles of unknown depth for good measure. It's not rock crawling but its not the place for a mini-van. Or a larger camp trailer. Or anything that is prone to falling apart. I suspect the Flyer would be fine....? Will have to wait until tomorrow for a bit of off-road testing.
Honestly we don't have much interest in traditional RV camping. I could possibly be convinced but wife is dead set against it. That said, we've both long envied clamshell teardrops for their cool kitchens and storage space. Think T@B 320 CS-S. They are spendy though, especially the newer "Boondock" models, and they are just not super practical, no real roof racks and they don't have this kind of access for gear:
The package is a memory foam bed. It's a queen and it sleeps north-south. I'm ambivelent about using it for sleeping but we put the kids in it last night and they loved it. Our turn tonight. The thought has crossed my mind that it might be cool to put an RTT on top... two up, two down.