Joined the Club! 2019 Magnetic Gray/Terra

[4xoddic]

I just looked at Little Apple Toyota's new 200 inventory in Manhattan, KS and they currently have 15 on the lot! That's a pretty impressive selection - much more than any dealer in Denver. Looks like all but 1 are either black or white though.

New Land Cruiser for Sale in Manhattan, KS

That's the iceberg #, when actually they have NONE. I don't know where the "iceberg" is located. IF you go to buyatoyota.com & put in your zip, it does show the total # in region to choose from being @ your local dealer. Luckily, I figured that out early on & just checked dealer's inventory on line. That led to a trip to Emporia to check on 2 2018s, only to find out their on-line inventory shows vehicles not actually @ that dealership, but within dealer's "network."

I recall dealers' websites in Colorado Springs & Bozeman, MT, having LC inventory out the wazoo, 12 - 25. I now believe that was total (iceberg) # in their regions. I expressed my displeasure @ 2 dealerships regarding difficulty in finding a new LC via buyatoyota.

We came close to bailing on our deal, as the salesman left a msg they were ready to drive it back from the Nebraska dealer; 3 weeks after I placed the $500 deposit to have it rerouted to Olathe.

Perhaps, you could take a VIN from buyatoyota & run it to find out where it's actually sitting?

 

[swatski]

I just looked at Little Apple Toyota's new 200 inventory in Manhattan, KS and they currently have 15 on the lot! That's a pretty impressive selection - much more than any dealer in Denver. Looks like all but 1 are either black or white though.

New Land Cruiser for Sale in Manhattan, KS

I don't think so, lol. They also list 500+ highlanders and thousands of other toyota, honda vehicles...
Their lot looks to be a small to mid-size dealership, there is no way all that's in stock!

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[swatski]

That's the iceberg #, when actually they have NONE. I don't know where the "iceberg" is located. IF you go to buyatoyota.com & put in your zip, it does show the total # in region to choose from being @ your local dealer. Luckily, I figured that out early on & just checked dealer's inventory on line. That led to a trip to Emporia to check on 2 2018s, only to find out their on-line inventory shows vehicles not actually @ that dealership, but within dealer's "network."

I recall dealers' websites in Colorado Springs & Bozeman, MT, having LC inventory out the wazoo, 12 - 25. I now believe that was total (iceberg) # in their regions. I expressed my displeasure @ 2 dealerships regarding difficulty in finding a new LC via buyatoyota.

We came close to bailing on our deal, as the salesman left a msg they were ready to drive it back from the Nebraska dealer; 3 weeks after I placed the $500 deposit to have it rerouted to Olathe.

Perhaps, you could take a VIN from buyatoyota & run it to find out where it's actually sitting?

Exactly! When we shopped earlier this year in St. Louis, MO we could find... literally 2 or 3 LC200s that were physically there (and we could see), plus a couple more "in transit" whatever that means.

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[JohnJB]

I just looked at Little Apple Toyota's new 200 inventory in Manhattan, KS and they currently have 15 on the lot! That's a pretty impressive selection - much more than any dealer in Denver. Looks like all but 1 are either black or white though.

New Land Cruiser for Sale in Manhattan, KS

I ran the Brandywine VIN through Google. You get hits for 4 different Toyota dealers throughout plain states, none have actual pictures.

 

[Jbriones]

Completely agree .., I’ve been to 6 dealerships in DFW area and most have had 1-3.... 1 had non but advertised 4 .... all have said things like ... we have 2 or we have 3 on order...

 

[zeppelin23]

New shoes. 285/65r18

 

[swatski]

New shoes. 285/65r18

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Looking great! How is the ride?

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[zeppelin23]

It's definitely a bit firmer than stock, but it's worth it based on how much better it looks!

 

[RTaylor]

Firmer is a good thing, compared to squishy stock. And she looks great. Enjoy the new shoes.

 

[codyaustin5]

It's definitely a bit firmer than stock, but it's worth it based on how much better it looks!

Firmer is good but do they feel heavy?

 

[zeppelin23]

I can't say I notice any heaviness. Full disclosure, my wife's 3/4-ton Suburban runs the same tires, though, so I'm fairly conditioned to riding on these.

 

[finlayforprez]

Your LC looks awesome! I am so glad I was exploring the forums and saw this photo. I JUST brought the check to the dealership for my 2018 LC in black with terra interior. I already ordered the same tires and having them put on after delivery. I plan to black out the wheels and trim in the summer.

I also negotiated really hard between various dealerships and walked away a few times. I was finally able to get my new left over 2018 LC with around 50 miles for $72,000. I think I got a good deal!

New shoes. 285/65r18

 

[fireball]

Wow, that is awesome. I was shopping new ones before buying my 2016 and the best deal I could negotiate was 76,250.

 

[jeproks]

I paid $2,000 for a 6yr/100k miles Platinum warranty 10 days ago on a new 2018 Silver/Terra.

Got these prices from Troy Dietrich for a ‘19 Classic Silver I picked up 2 days ago.

Toyota Extra Care, Platinum coverage with $0 deductible:
6 yr / 75K - $850.00
6 yr / 100K - $1320.00
6 yr / 125K - $1725.00
7 yr / 75K - $985.00
7 yr / 100K - $1560.00
7 yr / 125K - $1920.00
8 yr / 75K - $1175.00
8 yr / 100K - $1725.00
8 yr / 125K - $2375.00
9 yr / 100K - $2055.00
9 yr / 125K - $2815.00
10 yr / 100K - $2230.00
10 yr / 125K - $3055.00

I currently have the mechanical breakdown coverage from Geico for $34 per 6 mos with $250 deductible so I’m still weighing if I need to drop it and buy a Toyota warranty.

 

[Markuson]

I'm tempted to go that route. I did the same thing with my old 4Runner -- ran the Dunflop AT20's until they wore out (which I don't remember being terribly long) and then upgraded to Michelin LTX AT2's.

Here's a Q for you guys -- I ended up springing for the Platinum warranty and maintenance plan, so I think I'm covered for pretty much everything for six years. Am I a sucker?

2 cents...

The most common mods should not void warranty except, of course, that they won’t fix items you add.
Even though my LCs were both beyond initial warranty when I bought them, I asked my trusted, long-time Toyota service guy about this question out of curiosity and he said..
...the only things that void portions of warranty are parts that fundamentally change things, such as...a gear change to 4.88s (or other ratios). Since this would mean significantly changing the transmission’s characteristics, they might not cover it all of it. Of course they won’t cover after-market suspension struts, etc...

Wheels, tires, bumpers, winches, sliders, etc. should have no effect on other parts warranty except for items they replace or directly impact. By “direct,” for example, that does NOT mean, for example, simply more load on the engine from heavier mods somehow voiding engine-related warranty,either... -Otherwise anyone who tows would void their warranty. It doesn’t work that way.

In fact, Toyota helped pay for my radiator replacement even though I was YEARS beyond warranty, and not the original owner. Pretty nice.

After owning 5 Toyota’s, I’ve never had the impression that Toyota is in the habit of looking for ridiculous ways to dodge warranty coverage. They are good about it.

If you ever get push-back from a dealer about warranty coverage...either switch dealers and/or call Toyota Customer Care.

PS. We have a very informative Toyota dealer/owner on here, so hopefully he’ll chime in...unless it’s unwise for him to do that.

 

[40Man]

2 cents...

The most common mods should not void warranty.
Even though my LCs were both beyond initial warranty when I bought them, I asked my trusted, long-time Toyota service guy about this question out of curiosity and he said..
...the only things that void portions of warranty are parts that fundamentally change things, such as...a gear change to 4.88s (or other ratios). Since this would mean significantly changing the transmission’s characteristics, they might not cover it all of it. Of course they won’t cover after-market suspension struts, etc...

Wheels, tires, bumpers, winches, sliders, etc. should have no effect on other parts warranty except for items they replace or directly impact. By “direct,” for example, that does NOT mean, for example, simply more load on the engine from heavier mods somehow voiding engine-related warranty,either... -Otherwise anyone who tows would void their warranty. It doesn’t work that way.

In fact, Toyota helped pay for my radiator replacement even though I was YEARS beyond warranty, and not the original owner. Pretty nice.

After owning 5 Toyota’s, I’ve never had the impression that Toyota is in the habit of looking for ridiculous ways to dodge warranty coverage. They are good about it.

If you ever get push-back from a dealer about warranty coverage...either switch dealers and/or call Toyota Customer Care.

PS. We have a very informative Toyota dealer/owner on here, so hopefully he’ll chime in...unless it’s unwise for him to do that.

The Magunson-Moss Warranty Act is the federal law that governs warranties. Basically, unless a manufacturer can show that a modification led to an otherwise warranted defective part, the defective part must be covered under warranty. Now that isn't to saw a dealer/manufacturer won't argue, but the law is there to protect consumers, including attorney fees to the winner if you have to sue.

I have used the act to get other manufacturers to honor warranties.

 

[Eric Sarjeant]

I love this thread.
A few small chime-ins:
1) pricing from 77-78k is about right. It’s supply demand issue. Yes, the dealer makes 3500 in holdback under the 78k invoice (non-rear entertainment). So 75k is possible for sure. Especially for dealers that have them sit on their lots for 200-300 days. They need that floor plan (line of credit) money tied up. However, dealers like me, I sell 2-4 per month, most are pre-sold, so I would never sell one under invoice (78k). However, I would never sell one over invoice either (just my business model). Price fair, move inventory fast, everyone wins.
When I build cruisers I’ll make a few extra bucks, but it takes a ton on my personal time to babysit the build, offer knowledge and advice and I offer full warranty on the modded equipment.
2) Toyota warranties are IMHO worth the peace of mind, if bought at a fair price. We all know LCs are typically bulletproof, but if something fails, it’s not cheap ($125/hr labor + parts). Things can and do fail from time to time, and you typically would want a dealer to do the work if it’s beyond your scope or time limitations. (Shameless plug) I would sell a Toyota VSC to anyone on this board for $100 over cost (typical dealer margin in $1000). I won’t publish them here to avoid getting reported with marketing violation, but I will offer my cell 317-385-9572 if anyone wants to call or text me (no offense taken if you need a price to keep your local dealer honest). Toyota is VERY good about goodwilling claims a little outside the terms factory warranty. They are in the business of keeping customers for life. People never forget when goodwill claims are granted.
My two cents, get the warranty on a 2016+ 200-series, especially 2018+. Not so much for the powertrain but for the electronics and safety-sense as they are very advanced and you can not repair them yourself.

 

[finlayforprez]

Thanks for this post, it was very informative! I had to negotiate pretty hard on a vehicle that sat over almost a year and was surprised to get them down to $72,000. I know that they were not happy because I walked away, but in the end the GM called me to make a final offer and I took it. This was from a dealership that does not sell very many - in fact the GM told me he had not sold one in several years! My geographic area has several Toyota dealerships, but it's not a high volume LC sales area.

I called the Toyota dealership listed on another forum (Wolverine I think) and got the 10 year/100,000 mile Toyota Extended Platinum warranty. I fully expect that this 2018 LC is way more reliable than my Land Rover, but it's still a piece of man-made technology and you never know.

Thanks again!

Regards, David

I love this thread.
A few small chime-ins:
1) pricing from 77-78k is about right. It’s supply demand issue. Yes, the dealer makes 3500 in holdback under the 78k invoice (non-rear entertainment). So 75k is possible for sure. Especially for dealers that have them sit on their lots for 200-300 days. They need that floor plan (line of credit) money tied up. However, dealers like me, I sell 2-4 per month, most are pre-sold, so I would never sell one under invoice (78k). However, I would never sell one over invoice either (just my business model). Price fair, move inventory fast, everyone wins.
When I build cruisers I’ll make a few extra bucks, but it takes a ton on my personal time to babysit the build, offer knowledge and advice and I offer full warranty on the modded equipment.
2) Toyota warranties are IMHO worth the peace of mind, if bought at a fair price. We all know LCs are typically bulletproof, but if something fails, it’s not cheap ($125/hr labor + parts). Things can and do fail from time to time, and you typically would want a dealer to do the work if it’s beyond your scope or time limitations. (Shameless plug) I would sell a Toyota VSC to anyone on this board for $100 over cost (typical dealer margin in $1000). I won’t publish them here to avoid getting reported with marketing violation, but I will offer my cell 317-385-9572 if anyone wants to call or text me (no offense taken if you need a price to keep your local dealer honest). Toyota is VERY good about goodwilling claims a little outside the terms factory warranty. They are in the business of keeping customers for life. People never forget when goodwill claims are granted.
My two cents, get the warranty on a 2016+ 200-series, especially 2018+. Not so much for the powertrain but for the electronics and safety-sense as they are very advanced and you can not repair them yourself.