Get the Turbo kits going. I will gladly switch my SC for a turbo. Just the news I have been waiting for.
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Sean
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Sean
It's TURBO TIME!
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the thought of used SC becoming available might get me on the "get the turbo kits going" band wagon.
EnDLeSS said:
$8k to rebuild a 1FZE
Is that an accurate quote? Not saying anything about Slee, I know they are on the up and up, just wondering if that was a typo, and if NOT, what in the hell makes it so damn pricey to rebuild? Yikes!
Montana Cruiser said:$8k to rebuild a 1FZE
That can't be right. Maybe for a complete new motor, but a rebuild
. I was thinking if you did the work yourself (pull the motor, send the block to a machine shop and have it bored, new pistons/rings, yadda) should run around $2,500. Just guessing though.
Now that sounds more like it. Rebuild by a professional that knows what they are doing and installing a turbo on top of that. Rock out with your cock out!
That is about the top end of a drag in, drive out rebuild. If you buy a new shortblock, then you have more parts costs, but less machining. If you price both options with rebuilding your own block, with crank balancing and machining, new pistons etc etc and all the head work, the rebuild using your own block is slightly cheaper. Less parts but more labor.
There are no cheap parts for a rebuild on these trucks. I think the last time we priced a long block from Jesper, it was between $4/$5k plus shipping charges.
This is from their site:
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LIVE RUN TESTED-Oil pressure, compression and vaccuum measurements are
made to ensure unit meets OEM specifications.
NOTES
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Product summary: 4476CC, 1FZFE, DOHC, 24 Valve, With Crank Angle Sensor
CORE ID=1FZFE LARGE 2" RIBBED LETTERS ON THE BLOCK
CORE POLICIES:
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FOR FULL DETAILS OF THE CORE POLICIES, CLICK HERE, OR CALL JASPERENGINES & TRANSMISSIONS AT 1-800-827-7455.
PRICING AND AVAILABILITY:
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THE PRICE IS: $6176.25
SOLD ON AN EXCHANGE BASIS W/JASPER RECEIVING OLD UNIT AS A CORE.
IN STOCK: YES
NOTE: DELIVERY TIME MAY VARY DEPENDING ON LOCATION OF PRODUCT.
There are no cheap parts for a rebuild on these trucks. I think the last time we priced a long block from Jesper, it was between $4/$5k plus shipping charges.
This is from their site:
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LIVE RUN TESTED-Oil pressure, compression and vaccuum measurements are
made to ensure unit meets OEM specifications.
NOTES
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Product summary: 4476CC, 1FZFE, DOHC, 24 Valve, With Crank Angle Sensor
CORE ID=1FZFE LARGE 2" RIBBED LETTERS ON THE BLOCK
CORE POLICIES:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FOR FULL DETAILS OF THE CORE POLICIES, CLICK HERE, OR CALL JASPERENGINES & TRANSMISSIONS AT 1-800-827-7455.
PRICING AND AVAILABILITY:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE PRICE IS: $6176.25
SOLD ON AN EXCHANGE BASIS W/JASPER RECEIVING OLD UNIT AS A CORE.
IN STOCK: YES
NOTE: DELIVERY TIME MAY VARY DEPENDING ON LOCATION OF PRODUCT.
On another note, it can be rebuilt for less, if you count your time as worth nothing. 
Im just wondering whether Sleeoffroad going to be U.S Distributor for the AVO Turbo?
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drexx said:23Nov2004 (UTC +8)
Hiya Paul! Will you guys sell to me here in the Philippines? We don't care for no CARB emmissions here
Of course!
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Paul Hansen
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Patience little grasshopper.
sleeoffroad said:
Exactly, it took 1.5 years for a set of caster plates to go from the top of the tool box to a shelf waiting on hardware.
I'll let you calculate the time for something as complicated as a turbo system.
It would be nice to see someone with a clue have an influence over design and distributorship. I can't help feel that MAF will make their unit like so many other products of theirs that needs to be installed by them or a certified shop.
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I'd like to clarify some things here, it may answer some questions.
When AVOturboworld got involved in building the turbo kits for the Landcruisers in Dubai, we actually came in after they had tried another makers kit. They had had nothing but problems, though, and it was really because they didn't send in a professional mechanic to set things up and train the shop on how to install and maintain the turbocharger kit properly.
So we only try to set up distribution in a country now when we've got a good shop to work with, and we can go in and get all those matters resolved first. This is why we did start selling the kit here in Japan - Ross Wilson came over from the main shop in Australia and has set up an operation here, so we have the technical support necessary for the kit in this market.
Our main concern is the customer. Customer satisfaction is an overriding concern for us, and that's only accomplished with adequate customer support. So that's what we are building up right now, the structure for all of that in America, then we can get fully involved with the American market.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
www.avo4x4.com
When AVOturboworld got involved in building the turbo kits for the Landcruisers in Dubai, we actually came in after they had tried another makers kit. They had had nothing but problems, though, and it was really because they didn't send in a professional mechanic to set things up and train the shop on how to install and maintain the turbocharger kit properly.
So we only try to set up distribution in a country now when we've got a good shop to work with, and we can go in and get all those matters resolved first. This is why we did start selling the kit here in Japan - Ross Wilson came over from the main shop in Australia and has set up an operation here, so we have the technical support necessary for the kit in this market.
Our main concern is the customer. Customer satisfaction is an overriding concern for us, and that's only accomplished with adequate customer support. So that's what we are building up right now, the structure for all of that in America, then we can get fully involved with the American market.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
www.avo4x4.com
Has anyone considered the price of building an engine up to handle the extra HP of a real turbo?
My guess would be in the $10,000 range before any turbo goodies where even added.
I only mention this because this subject has delved into a pricing war.
My guess would be in the $10,000 range before any turbo goodies where even added.
I only mention this because this subject has delved into a pricing war.
Well my old turbo 80 4.5 motor went from running 10 psi boost on premium fuel, to running 20 psi boost on straight lpg, making 285 rwkw and its still holding together, how many more kw you after?
the shed guy said:
I assume your post was towards mine and you’re addressing the longevity of an unmodified 80's 4.5 with 50% more hp.
I know that Slee didn't think any <95 80 LC was worth a SC after about 35,000 miles and a turbo should make a heck of a lot more hp than a SC, if not then why even bother with turbo lag
The only issue I see in preparing the 1FZ for boost will be the head gasket. The remainder of the engine is extremely beefy for the current state of tune.... and would be well up to some mild forced induction.
The inline is already a very strong design. However, these are a few items I've noticed that lend the engine to be very durable. The top piston ring land is very thick, much thicker than most other modern normally aspirated engines I've torn down. Don't quote me on this one - some of the piston rings are of the martensic stainless steel variety... nothing better. Oil cooled pistons... a cool piston is a strong piston. Large bore w/ low compression. Large bores tend to knock less due to having more area around the cylinder to absorb heat. 9 - 1 comp is low by todays standards for normally aspirated... pretty nice for some boost, though.
A proper head gasket and real external oil cooler would be the items I would throw on top of a system that did not have them.
The inline is already a very strong design. However, these are a few items I've noticed that lend the engine to be very durable. The top piston ring land is very thick, much thicker than most other modern normally aspirated engines I've torn down. Don't quote me on this one - some of the piston rings are of the martensic stainless steel variety... nothing better. Oil cooled pistons... a cool piston is a strong piston. Large bore w/ low compression. Large bores tend to knock less due to having more area around the cylinder to absorb heat. 9 - 1 comp is low by todays standards for normally aspirated... pretty nice for some boost, though.
A proper head gasket and real external oil cooler would be the items I would throw on top of a system that did not have them.
bjowett said:
I don't want to speak for Slee but when I called about a SC they said someone insisted on one (94 30,000 miles????) and IIRC it spit a connecting rod out the side of the block in 2 miles.
No one should take my word for anything and a simple call to Slee will be better served.
BTW, I have a SCed truck and added 60 more RWHP (+20% over stock) to an already powdered connecting rod and beefed up everything and shot that rod out of my block along with an entire head. That rod would put a stock Toyota rod to shame plus I believe that our 6 is missing 2 journals compared to a supra engine, so don't base your research on that engine like I started to do, apples to oranges.
Call Crammer Cams and chew on their ear for about 15 minutes to see what they can do for you, and the simple stuff will start producing numbers like $4000 for this, $2000 for this, $8000 for that. After about 10 minutes you will see clear as day why people don’t modify these engines beyond what they do, unless you own most of Saudi Arabia.
Enjoy and let us know if you build something that lasts.